A.Americans vs Russian/Euro's: who uses PED's?

[Worick]

Vitali Klitschko
Alexander Povetkin
Denis Bakhtov
Lucian Bute
Andrzej Fonfara
Felix Sturm
Erkan Teper
Mariusz Wach
Andrzej Wawrzyk

The list goes on I'm sure.

Jarrell Miller single handedly tried to take as many PEDs as all those guys, though, didn't he?

It's a shameful situation all the way around.

Why is the drug tests stricter with them? Do they have a lenient testing agency like usada? In the u.s they can just avoid testing overall

[ShoulderRoll]

Why is the drug tests stricter with them? Do they have a lenient testing agency like usada? In the u.s they can just avoid testing overall

I don't think the drug tests are stricter. They just get caught a lot.

VADA is the strictest and the gold standard right now but it's mostly Americans who use it.

[Worick]

I don't think the drug tests are stricter. They just get caught a lot.

VADA is the strictest and the gold standard right now but it's mostly Americans who use it.

Lmao americans use usada and we all know why.

[ShoulderRoll]

Lmao americans use usada and we all know why.

Russians/Euros hardly ever use VADA. We all know why.

[travestyny]

Lmao americans use usada and we all know why.

You guys need to stop the madness.


Once again, BOTH USADA and VADA use the same exact labs. The labs are completely independent from USADA and from VADA.

All test results are sent to WADA since the labs are WADA signatories. If someone popped for steroids, WADA would be made privy to the information immediately. It would be updated to the ADAMS system, and the information would be out there.

[The Big Dunn]

Mayweather Mosley Toney Holyfield Wilder Roy Jones Tarver just to name a few

But they get a pass. For obvious reasons

Mayweather nor Deontay have tested positive for PED's. Holyfield, Mosley, Toney and Tarver were not Haymon fighters when they tested positive.

I'm not sure why you would call them or co sign them as being "Haymon's boys".

Are we ignoring the whole russian gov't sponsored PED program?

[Worick]

Mayweather nor Deontay have tested positive for PED's. Holyfield, Mosley, Toney and Tarver were not Haymon fighters when they tested positive.

I'm not sure why you would call them or co sign them as being "Haymon's boys".

Are we ignoring the whole russian gov't sponsored PED program?

Lmao you guys really love acting like the 750ml of iv never happened huh? Lmao and you guys still accuse pac for "using" despite never having failed a drug test

[travestyny]

Lmao you guys really love acting like the 750ml of iv never happened huh? Lmao and you guys still accuse pac for "using" despite never having failed a drug test

When did IV fluid become a banned substance?

[The Big Dunn]

Lmao you guys really love acting like the 750ml of iv never happened huh? Lmao and you guys still accuse pac for "using" despite never having failed a drug test

Hmm, your response doesn't exactly address the post. Seems like you are trying to avoid discussing the actual response because I point out that none of the Haymon guys you listed tested positive and the guys that tested positive weren't affiliated with Haymon. Which refutes the point you made in the initial post in this thread.

Most recently, Miller and Canelo, non Haymon fighters, tested positive for PED use. Fury has also tested positive for PED usage, he is a non Haymon guy. Spence, Haymon's top guy right now, was enrolled in VADA for his last fight.

When have I ever acted like it didn't happen? I don't recall Mayweather testing positive before or after that. DO you? As for Manny, refusing to take a PED test can be seen as admission of using, same waay not taking a DWI/DUI test is considered admission of using. But that is another topic for another time.

[Luilun]

Mayweather nor Deontay have tested positive for PED's. Holyfield, Mosley, Toney and Tarver were not Haymon fighters when they tested positive.

I'm not sure why you would call them or co sign them as being "Haymon's boys".

Are we ignoring the whole russian gov't sponsored PED program?

Read a story by a Max Montoya LA Times Mayweather failed 3 test but results were tossed out than IV Flush he sure was Flushing crap out his body