Comments Thread For: Andy Ruiz: I Know Joshua's Flaws, He's Not a Good Boxer

[FerronK]

I just want to point out that that is a massive generalisation - I’m British, and me and plenty of other British fans never rated Joshua and knew he was massively over hyped by Hearn.

Can I just say that Joshua is an African man, being born in the UK doesn't make British.... And he is massively adore by African people in the West and the Africa.. While Brits might have abandoned him, the Africans are heavily loved him

[FerronK]

Thanks, new Alt man; Obviously you are a coward. If you weren't, then you would have step to me with your primary user account handle and not hide behind a fake one.

Yet again demonstrating how completely illogical boxing fans are. It did occur to you that might be new to this site? It is truly amazing that you are judging me by your faults. You are probably a multple account users, and now you are projecting your cowardice deceptive behaviour onto me... Pathetic

[FerronK]

Joshua should heed the advice of George Foreman and "Let sleeping dogs lie". Ruiz should be avoided at all cost because AJ is not ready for him yet.

He needs more time to develop and correct his mistakes. The kid simply needs more experience and seasoning in order to defeat Andy Ruiz, Jr.

The only scenario I can see Joshua defeating Ruiz is by sticking and moving by fighting off the back foot. However, He just can't move but he also has to punch.

That is going to require a lot of energy and stamina. He would have to lose a minimum of at least 25 lbs or more to pull that one off because at 250 lbs; He'll be just too heavy with all those muscles to box like that.

So that people like you call him a coward? You guys are talking as though Ruiz is this superior boxers... It is as if you people didnt watch the fight or you are all just letting your hatred for Joshua cloud your judges... Here is what happened.. He knocked Ruiz down, rushed for the kill carelessly because he wanted to out perform Wilder, get punched at the back of the head and never really recovered... It happens in boxing in HW... Joshua has been far superior boxers than Ruiz... The man made a mistake (in his attempt to impress). A mistake he wouldn't make again.. It is also obvious to anyone with intelligence that something was quite right with Joshua... He is taking the fight, if only to prove you hater wrong about him.. And I can't wait..

[FerronK]

This is funny from aj fans saying ruiz got a lucky win
Ruiz knocked Joshua how many times?
How many clean combinations were landed on Joshua's face?
Joshua had 4 rds to recover from the beating he got from the 3rd round. Aj fans making it sound like it was a one punch ko when it was multiple clean shots to aj's face.

What excuse do you have for that?

AJ gave up in the 7th. Let's say it again.. He gave up how is that lucky?

This is the classic example of a intellectually dishonest argument. Joshua got hit at the top of the head, he didn't recover... and that is what lead to the other 3 knock downs... It was fluke,, one that wouldn't repeat itself again... Joshua cost himself that fight,,.. by being careless... removed the blind hatred from your heart that is colonizing every muscle cell in ur heart and be honest...

[pollywog]

removed the blind hatred from your heart that is colonizing every muscle cell in ur heart and be honest...

Might be a bit too much to ask from some?

[SteveM]

Some fighters benefit from having blubber, just like some animals benefit from having plenty of blubber. A Walrus benefits from having a massive amount of weight and blubber.

Ruiz Junior seemed to have decent speed, was stead and strong on his his feet also. I just sense if he was to come in at 230 for the next fight, he would feel weak and just be bulldozed by Joshua.

Tyson Fury, Derek Chisora, Andy Ruiz Junior all these guys kind of benefit from not being lean 'Probably due to their body types and genetics' It is as if their bodies can't cope with being lean, they will probably end up getting sick.

Chisora looked empty inside during his rematch with Dillian Whyte. I expect Ruiz Junior to come in at 250+ pounds for the rematch, anything lower than that and I will be surprised.

He is like a Sea lion Andy Ruiz Junior, in condition and carries his blubber well. He obviously trained hard for Joshua, and his aerobic/lactic conditioning is quite good.

You gotta be the ONLY poster EVER to compare a fat fighter to a friggin walrus -- green k1

but you are forgetting that walruses live in arctic waters and fight each other like sumo wrestlers - bulk wins

sea lions I dunno so much that they have so much blubber, quite a bit of muscle plus they have all evolved to their optimal shape over a million + years - nobody is gonna convince me that Ruiz is in his optimal shape

[PRINCEKOOL]

You gotta be the ONLY poster EVER to compare a fat fighter to a friggin walrus -- green k1

but you are forgetting that walruses live in arctic waters and fight each other like sumo wrestlers - bulk wins

sea lions I dunno so much that they have so much blubber, quite a bit of muscle plus they have all evolved to their optimal shape over a million + years - nobody is gonna convince me that Ruiz is in his optimal shape

For his body type, he may be optimal. He could do exactly the same training, and eat all the same food's as Anthony Joshua 'But he may not produce the same results' and it could backfire on him badly. Also when it comes to athletes we have to also factor in their mentality,Joshua seems quite similar to David Haye. 'Even when Joshua is retired he would still train'. It is ingrained within their psychological make up intrinsically, Andy Ruiz may be abit up and down when it comes to training 'but that is who he is'. For me when fighters like this decided to drastically change, it seems to destroy them 'Seen this happen to Derek Chisora in his training camp for the rematch with Dillian Whyte, and most famously Ricky Hatton'.

[!! Shawn]

The small guys are all wrong for Joshua. If he can avoid getting knocked down or out for 12 they'll probably gift him his belts back.

Truth be told Joshua looked uncomfortable from round 1. The hand speed made him gun-shy & he didn't have a good enough jab to keep Andy at the end of it . AJ can't do nothing if Andy gets in close.

I'll tell you right now. If Joshua doesn't learn how to 1. Tuck his chin 2. Use his jab effectively 3. Not gas out early 4. Keep Andy from getting to close 5. Learn how to tie up a shorter armed fighter when they get too close, he loses again

Aside from that 1 kd that Ruiz recovered from immediately, I saw nothing that would lead me to believe AJ winsthe rematch

Problem is that Ruiz is fast enough to close distance and counter anything Joshua throws. Joshua's size worked against him. Unless he comes in dramatically smaller, I don't think physically he can handle what Ruiz shows him in the ring.

He just can't get out of the way of those shots or get his gloves back in time to block.

The old adage is speed kills.

There is a point where a fighter is just too fast for you to do anything about it unless you have exceptional timing, and even then you are going to have to take shots.

Joshua has never demonstrated exceptional timing. And he cant take shots.

[!! Shawn]

AJ should win the rematch, he has the superior physical talent and now knows what he’s up against!

Keep Ruiz at the end of the jab, double the jab or triple it and circle him all night and if Andy gets close just tie him up!

I think AJ is gonna fight Ruiz like he did Parker, just relying on jabs and movement and a ref who will keep Andy from working inside!

AJ by UD in the rematch and a trilogy will sell like hot cakes!

Except Ruiz was countering his Jab was a left hook right hand quit effectively. Its the reason you didn't see much jabbing from Joshua.

He simply can't jab fast enough to avoid getting countered by the MUCH faster Ruiz.

Thats a problem that I don't think Joshua can solve, unless he gets considerably faster.

I also don't think Joshua has the stamina to jab and move all night. Ruiz for how he looks actually has good stamina judging from all his other fights.

Baring a situation where they exchange, and he catches Ruiz again, but actually manages to knock Ruiz out cold, I don't think he wins the rematch.

[!! Shawn]

That's not how it works, it's more nuanced than that. If Joshua can improve 10/15% in those areas that might be enough to make the odds swing in his favour.

He doesn't need to become a different fighter.

Lets face it, Andy Ruiz can **** but until now he hasn't set the world on fire.

All that said, AR has far more upside than AJ. If he could improve his conditioning and shed some fat then he'd likely improve his foot speed which would be huge.

Despite his Appearance, Ruiz actually has above average stamina for the division. If you go watch some of his other fights, he is capable of maintaining quite a high work rate when he choses.

He fought a pretty measured fight against Joshua, and just systematically dismantled him and beat him down.

Coming in a bit lighter could improve his foot speed, but that didn't seem to be an issue at all for him.