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  • ShaneMosleySr
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    Your take on this heavyweight era

    Throughout the history of heavyweight boxing, there is usually one heavyweight that is a class above everyone else. That is the norm.

    The two notable decades that are exceptions to this rule are the 1970s and the 1990s

    The post-Klitschko era has also been built up as another competitive era. With three recognized heavyweight champions, it made sense as it was happening.

    But after Ruiz’s upset if Joshua, it seems like while this era is competitive, it might not be that competitive at the very, very top of the division.

    So, in your opinion, will this era be like the 70s and 90s or like most of the others? Do we have a deep crop of talented heavyweights, or a lot of average guys and one real champ? Are Anthony Joshua, Dillian Whyte, Jospeh Parker and Andy Ruiz average guys that all beat up on each other? Is Wilder just a one punch artist who only beat an old man in Ortiz? Is Fury fat and boring and overrated? Do two stand above the rest in this era? Is it one guy? And if so, who’s your guys?

    Give me your take!

    Personally I think we’re getting closer and closer to Tyson Fury becoming the one guy and dominating. I don’t think this era is going to end up anything like the 70s or 90s. I think Fury has everything going for him and everyone else is flawed. He’s the tallest, the longest, the quickest and the most skilled.

    Ortiz could have been the guy, he’s the one guy I would say is as skilled as Fury, but he’s just too old now. Anyone can outbox Wilder, they just have to go 12. I think Joshua lacks polish and technique and doesn’t have a chin. Ruiz has great skills but is still too short and stubby to consistently beat all the top fighters. Dillian Whyte isn’t a good technical boxer, he was getting outboxed by Chisora in the rematch and he let Parker get back into that fight after having it in his pocket. I don’t trust anyone after those names either.
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    It’s Fury’s era but Wilder is right there in the sense you have to give him a genuine chance to beat anyone due to the power

    Those two stand alone right now. I’m not going to talk about the likes of Uysk moving up because he hasn’t fought yet. I think he has talent to be a big player but think someone like Fury is too big for him and can pretty much match him for skill.

    Fury is the man though and people will realise it if they don’t already. You can’t keep that talent down. He is the man that beat the dominant champ and took over. Then he come back after 3 years and in most peoples eyes beat the most dangerous guy of the new era.

    Fury is no fluke, he is the real deal but some people can’t handle it. I think time will prove that Fury is the man.

    Joshua will go down as a heavyweight that become a world champ and had a little run and it ended. If you take his mass popularity out of the equation, then in the future his actual boxing career in the ring will probably be remembered as nothing special, just a kind of Bruno, Valuev, Haye, Samuel Peter kind of thing. It’s just his popularity make people see him differently.

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      Worst modern HW era ever. Fat out of shape HW's and HW's with little skill, we have probably the least skilled HW title holder ever in Wilder. This eras HW would struggle to make top 15 in the 90s.

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        This era is not deep in pure quality, i think all the best fighters have flaws, some serious but what it is is highly competitive. Im not writing Joshua off yet based on the Ruiz loss. He is still a major player in the division without a doubt. I think on their day any of the top boys can beat any of the top boys and the next crop is nearly coming through too. And we hear that most these up and comers have sparred with the current crop and that sparring has also been competitive.

        I think this current era of Heavyweight Boxing is fantastic. But more for its competitiveness than its depth in elite level quality. I dont forget that Fury is technically an elite level fighter but his lack of power is his biggest flaw, with big power Fury would easily be head and shoulders above everybody in this division. But he hasnt and as Deontay Wilder showed 11 and a half rounds of great Boxing can be undone in an instant in a division where a big percentage of fighters can hit very hard. Not as hard as Wilder but hard enough. Power is a big advantage to anybody but especially at that weight.

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        • j.razor
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          Its better now than the last 10 years....LOL

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          • Mexican_Puppet
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            #6
            Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
            Throughout the history of heavyweight boxing, there is usually one heavyweight that is a class above everyone else. That is the norm.

            The two notable decades that are exceptions to this rule are the 1970s and the 1990s

            The post-Klitschko era has also been built up as another competitive era. With three recognized heavyweight champions, it made sense as it was happening.

            But after Ruiz’s upset if Joshua, it seems like while this era is competitive, it might not be that competitive at the very, very top of the division.

            So, in your opinion, will this era be like the 70s and 90s or like most of the others? Do we have a deep crop of talented heavyweights, or a lot of average guys and one real champ? Are Anthony Joshua, Dillian Whyte, Jospeh Parker and Andy Ruiz average guys that all beat up on each other? Is Wilder just a one punch artist who only beat an old man in Ortiz? Is Fury fat and boring and overrated? Do two stand above the rest in this era? Is it one guy? And if so, who’s your guys?

            Give me your take!

            Personally I think we’re getting closer and closer to Tyson Fury becoming the one guy and dominating. I don’t think this era is going to end up anything like the 70s or 90s. I think Fury has everything going for him and everyone else is flawed. He’s the tallest, the longest, the quickest and the most skilled.

            Ortiz could have been the guy, he’s the one guy I would say is as skilled as Fury, but he’s just too old now. Anyone can outbox Wilder, they just have to go 12. I think Joshua lacks polish and technique and doesn’t have a chin. Ruiz has great skills but is still too short and stubby to consistently beat all the top fighters. Dillian Whyte isn’t a good technical boxer, he was getting outboxed by Chisora in the rematch and he let Parker get back into that fight after having it in his pocket. I don’t trust anyone after those names either.
            Ruiz is the only guy that destroyed a top champion.

            Best win of Wilder is Jurassic Park Luis Ortíz and he was life and death

            Best win of Fury is a old Klitschko and the fight was close

            At least Joshua destroyed Klitschko...

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              #7
              We've got some strong up-and-comers in Efe Ajagba and Filip Hrgovic.

              Usyk, Hunter, and Gassiev could be game changers with their skills and speed.

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              • Caught Square
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                Very good era and I think more upsets will happen. Even if Fury becomes undisputed I don’t think he’ll ‘dominate’ in the sense of reigning for years because he doesn’t seem like someone who stays dedicated. He’d either retire or go out of shape again and lose imo.

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                • boliodogs
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                  Throughout the history of heavyweight boxing, there is usually one heavyweight that is a class above everyone else. That is the norm.

                  The two notable decades that are exceptions to this rule are the 1970s and the 1990s

                  The post-Klitschko era has also been built up as another competitive era. With three recognized heavyweight champions, it made sense as it was happening.

                  But after Ruiz’s upset if Joshua, it seems like while this era is competitive, it might not be that competitive at the very, very top of the division.

                  So, in your opinion, will this era be like the 70s and 90s or like most of the others? Do we have a deep crop of talented heavyweights, or a lot of average guys and one real champ? Are Anthony Joshua, Dillian Whyte, Jospeh Parker and Andy Ruiz average guys that all beat up on each other? Is Wilder just a one punch artist who only beat an old man in Ortiz? Is Fury fat and boring and overrated? Do two stand above the rest in this era? Is it one guy? And if so, who’s your guys?

                  Give me your take!

                  Personally I think we’re getting closer and closer to Tyson Fury becoming the one guy and dominating. I don’t think this era is going to end up anything like the 70s or 90s. I think Fury has everything going for him and everyone else is flawed. He’s the tallest, the longest, the quickest and the most skilled.

                  Ortiz could have been the guy, he’s the one guy I would say is as skilled as Fury, but he’s just too old now. Anyone can outbox Wilder, they just have to go 12. I think Joshua lacks polish and technique and doesn’t have a chin. Ruiz has great skills but is still too short and stubby to consistently beat all the top fighters. Dillian Whyte isn’t a good technical boxer, he was getting outboxed by Chisora in the rematch and he let Parker get back into that fight after having it in his pocket. I don’t trust anyone after those names either.
                  I think today's heavyweights are OK bu nothing special. I don't think Fury is that good. I think he lacks the drive to get in shape and stay in shape. Look at his gut last fight. He can be hit and hurt as average puncher Cunningham and big puncher Wilder showed. I think Wilder can improve and vary his attack and throw more bombs with both hands and KO Fury in a rematch. I thought Fury beat Wilder but he never hurt him. Fury has only faced two really good fighters and Wlad was so old and past prime. AJ showed some serious weaknesses so Fury and Wilder are probably the top two but Ruiz might beat either of them. Whyte also has a chance to beat anybody. They are an interesting group but none of them are outstanding. Miller and the Polish guy can fight too. There are good fights to be made at heavyweight but there is no clear standout to me. The best of them can all be beaten by one of the rest of them on a given night.I rank them Wilder, Fury, Ruiz, Whyte, the Polish guy, Ortiz, Parker and then Miller. I don't know where to put AJ until I see him fight again. At one time I thought he might be the best but not now.

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                  • The D3vil
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
                    Ruiz is the only guy that destroyed a top champion.

                    Best win of Wilder is Jurassic Park Luis Ortíz and he was life and death

                    Best win of Fury is a old Klitschko and the fight was close

                    At least Joshua destroyed Klitschko...
                    Joshua did not destroy Klitschko.

                    Klitschko almost knocked him out and it was an even fight until the ref prematurely stopped it.

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