Comments Thread For: Andy Ruiz, Anthony Joshua: A Tale of Two Heavyweights

[por_pramuk]

So...

The author believes that Joshua didn't quit because he got up against Klitschko, and because his trainer had him live in a hut for a night?

There is a difference between getting up from ONE knockdown and getting up from FOUR knockdowns. Joshua walked away from the ref, kept looking at his corner, kept spitting out his mouthpiece, and didn't even bother to walk forward when the ref pulled on his trunks. Joshua did the opposite of what you're supposed to do in that situation. Joshua quit but he didn't want to make it too obvious, so when the ref asked him if he wanted to continue, he said "Yes..."... but that's ALL he did. He stalled. When the ref ended the fight (like Joshua knew he eventually would) he said "What!?".

That's quitting.

Joshua is an amazing athlete inside and outside of the ring but we all saw the same thing that night.

[pollywog]

A fluff piece for a loser and a quitter...meh!

The giant glass jawed robot with all the tech in the world got exposed by the little fat kid with the biggest heart, the better skills and solid chin.

Andy did everything OILSKIN Parker should have done in his fight with AJ, but didn't.

Well played Senor Ruiz, well played!!!

Hopefully the rematch is in Mexico, Texas or SoCal, somewhere Fast Eddie can't buy a ref from.

Best part of the bout was seeing AJ's pleading eyes to the ref hoping he would step in, like he did with Parker when he got in close, then the look of shock horror upon realizing it wasn't gonna happen.

In the rematch, AJ will still be a giant, still be a robot and still have that glass jaw.

Andy will still have the bigger heart, better skills and solid chin, so I'm expecting the same result, bar some messed up homecooked reffing if the fight is held in the UK.

[NachoMan]

I don't see anyone in the heavyweight division besides fury who could beat joshua twice.

In 6 months you’ll see your boy Ruiz do it, and then a 3rd time 6 months later if AJ wants some more.

[Alan Smithee]

A fluff piece for a loser and a quitter...meh!

The giant glass jawed robot with all the tech in the world got exposed by the little fat kid with the biggest heart, the better skills and solid chin.

Andy did everything OILSKIN Parker should have done in his fight with AJ, but didn't.

Well played Senor Ruiz, well played!!!

Hopefully the rematch is in Mexico, Texas or SoCal, somewhere Fast Eddie can't buy a ref from.

Best part of the bout was seeing AJ's pleading eyes to the ref hoping he would step in, like he did with Parker when he got in close, then the look of shock horror upon realizing it wasn't gonna happen.

In the rematch, AJ will still be a giant, still be a robot and still have that glass jaw.

Andy will still have the bigger heart, better skills and solid chin, so I'm expecting the same result, bar some messed up homecooked reffing if the fight is held in the UK.

Great analysis. I for one saw this coming. Not fighting Ortiz was by design. Those in Joshua's camp always knew about the chin and avoided the hardest punchers. He does have some durable guys on the list of his title defenses but who was really a great puncher? Povetkin was 38 and past his prime! Who else was there? When Klitschko dropped him the red flags went up! I was a Carl " the truth" Williams guy and knew him personally but "there are no remedies for a glass jaw". Road work, bag work, sparring, none of it helps a weak chin!

[Ajvar]

Anthony Joshua was blasted for everything from quitting (he didn’t) to being a hype job (look at the resume, he’s not).

Mike Tyson tried to take his mousekeep getting up against Buster Douglas: he didn't do it on time but he clearly didn't quit.
While AJ dropped his mousekeep on purpose, turned his back on referee and glued himself into the corner despite ref literally trying to pull him from there: Aj QUIT and it doesn't matter he got up 4 times. Not getting up would be even more damaging to his hyped physical strength.

And about Hype... oh yeah, this chinny low tech guy really deserves that $TopHeavyweight HYPE he got, he proved it falling down 4 times for 7 rounds from a snickers guy.

[johny joe hdz]

So...

The author believes that Joshua didn't quit because he got up against Klitschko, and because his trainer had him live in a hut for a night?

There is a difference between getting up from ONE knockdown and getting up from FOUR knockdowns. Joshua walked away from the ref, kept looking at his corner, kept spitting out his mouthpiece, and didn't even bother to walk forward when the ref pulled on his trunks. Joshua did the opposite of what you're supposed to do in that situation. Joshua quit but he didn't want to make it too obvious, so when the ref asked him if he wanted to continue, he said "Yes..."... but that's ALL he did. He stalled. When the ref ended the fight (like Joshua knew he eventually would) he said "What!?".

That's quitting.

Joshua is an amazing athlete inside and outside of the ring but we all saw the same thing that night.

yea I was like.. hmmm ok you spent a night in a hut??? yea but he had his entire team and navy seals with him.. this was to help him in the psychological department, it did not.. not when you have many people around you like that.. I've done it and is freaking scary, just me in the middle of nowhere for work.. just me and my tools..to be honest, I remember not sleeping that night but next day you feel very good mentally. AJ did not do any of that..I think Ruiz beats him again even in England.