Comments Thread For: Dubois Praises Ruiz, Feels Critics Being Way Too Hard on Joshua

[Kannabis Kid]

I watched the fight again and right before they did the face off someone in Joshua corner said "You need to relax Josh" who knows but something definitely was off but if that was the case his team should've done something about it no need to make excuses now you carried on with the fight and Andy Ruiz did his thing people keep trying to assess what happened but in the end Andy TKOed Joshua and is the new unified heavyweight champ

[P4P Forever]

Hearn said AJ never got KOed in the gym sparing? Surprised to hear a name mentioned. (Joey Dawejko) is mentioned as the sparing partner that KOed him? I wasn't there. It was said he had a panic attack in the dressing rm delaying the fight? He was late to the ring wound not be the first time a fighter let the challenger sit in the ring waiting. If Aj did have some kind of (panic attack) that would explain a bunch of things , if ? Like Whyte and Warren mentioned he looked tentative, reluctant, then relived, overly gracious. Talked about losing ahead of time let Ruiz hold his belts ahead of time. Never seen that before with AJ before. Then Hearn is already talking about the rematch right after the fight. AJ himself is quoted saying he wants the rematch asap . Seems to soon to early to be set into pla,y like it was line up already. No time to let it set in reflect just full speed ahead. This after Josh was so gracious and relived. Think about this. Hearn is about to secure a location and the fight was just 3 days ago. All the sanctioning bodys already on board and rematch clause already invoked. hmmmmmmmmm Others have seen and know AJ better then me so cant be certain but something just seems off with the whole picture.

[evets]

let Ruiz hold his belts ahead of time.

Wow really? Don't think I've ever seen a champ let a challenger near belts before the decisions in lol

[VatoMulatto]

Rewatched the fight again today and while I tend to agree that Joshua didn't look right heading into the ring, I think the issue with Joshua wasn't his chin, it was down to the way his neck moved when he took that first shot to the top of the head. If you watch it back you can see what I'm talking about and you can also see that ruiz other hand was on Joshua's opposite shoulder to the side the punch travelled from. This causes a problem when the neck can't flex fully after an impact. Problem is that the combination of the impact combined with the sudden restriction of the natural reflex movement causes instantaneous swelling of the cervical spine. This swelling can restrict the flow of blood to the brain, which leads to cognitive reduction in the short term. Essentially a temporary form of vascular dementia. This is the impression I got from AJ from his behaviour in the corner between rounds, from his lack of attention to the ref before the stoppage, and from the way he was speaking and moving after the fight. Before someone trolls this by asking if I'm a doctor, I am but you don't need to be a doctor to recognise signs of this. It is a well known ailment of rugby and American football players. Not to be confused with concussion. I'll need to check again but I don't remember his corner icing the back of his neck between rounds, possibly another result of having an amateur level team in his corner.

Nice post!

[sammybee]

Joshua needs a tough preparation for the rematch otherwise a second lose will rue his career.

[P4Pdunny]

Rewatched the fight again today and while I tend to agree that Joshua didn't look right heading into the ring, I think the issue with Joshua wasn't his chin, it was down to the way his neck moved when he took that first shot to the top of the head. If you watch it back you can see what I'm talking about and you can also see that ruiz other hand was on Joshua's opposite shoulder to the side the punch travelled from. This causes a problem when the neck can't flex fully after an impact. Problem is that the combination of the impact combined with the sudden restriction of the natural reflex movement causes instantaneous swelling of the cervical spine. This swelling can restrict the flow of blood to the brain, which leads to cognitive reduction in the short term. Essentially a temporary form of vascular dementia. This is the impression I got from AJ from his behaviour in the corner between rounds, from his lack of attention to the ref before the stoppage, and from the way he was speaking and moving after the fight. Before someone trolls this by asking if I'm a doctor, I am but you don't need to be a doctor to recognise signs of this. It is a well known ailment of rugby and American football players. Not to be confused with concussion. I'll need to check again but I don't remember his corner icing the back of his neck between rounds, possibly another result of having an amateur level team in his corner.

great work here

[RoyJonesJrp4pno1]

What happened to Anthony Joshua, and what did we learn from Andy Ruiz Jr.'s big upset?
Steve Kim
ESPN

2. Is Joshua's chin a problem?

At this point, it seems like a rhetorical question.

What looked to be an early night for Joshua after flooring Ruiz in Round 3, instead became the beginning of a Gotham City nightmare in Joshua's United States debut. As he came into close the show on Ruiz, Joshua was caught by a series of crisp counterpunches from Ruiz, who proved he too could punch.

Joshua was stunned by a left hook to the temple during an exchange in the same round and went down in an stunning turn of events. And then once again. And while he survived the round and had some moments thereafter, from that point on, he looked unsteady on his legs and more than that, unsure of his own durability.

Never had a man so strong looked so fragile.

It was an easy call for referee Michael Griffin. While Joshua was on his feet standing on a neutral corner after being knocked down twice more by Ruiz in Round 7, he had symbolically waved the white flag.

And while the result is surprising, the fact is that Joshua was buzzed numerous times, and he hit the canvas four times. We have seen that before. He was stunned in victories over Dillian Whyte and most recently against Alexander Povetkin. Two years ago, Joshua was knocked down by Wladimir Klitschko before stopping Klitschko in a great fight.

For all of his talent, it's clear that Joshua's chin is a flaw. Perhaps it was just a matter of when it was going to be totally exposed.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...z-jr-big-upset

All heavyweights have bad chins by default. Nobody's chin is built to stand up to guys who are 250+ hitting them with clean power shots.

[Bronx2245]

All heavyweights have bad chins by default. Nobody's chin is built to stand up to guys who are 250+ hitting them with clean power shots.

That being said, Joshua has been rocked an inordinate amount of times for someone with only 23 fights! We can't say the same for Fury, Wilder, Ortiz, or Ruiz! So I wouldn't say "all heavyweights have a bad chin." They are all at great risk of being KO'd, but Joshua is definitely at a greater risk than most!

[P4P Forever]

Wow really? Don't think I've ever seen a champ let a challenger near belts before the decisions in lol

Neither have I ever. In fact, I remember fights erupting over that sort of thing. Ill bet money a rematch clause has never been invoked this quickly, ever! When dose a promoter talk for the fighter after a brutal TKO and say's right away his fighter needs to win the rematch??? When ? Let's use Dogboe as example. That wasn't sent into motion for moths is my understanding even tho the already had a rematch clause. Another point I want to make is Dogboe got out boxed worse in the rematch but he wasent getting droped again and again and took a TKO. Hurd was standing at the end of the fight. Hurd then stated later in the week he'll opt for doing the rematch and wants to invoke that option. I read this in the news days after the fight. Yet I suspect that actually hasn't been done yet. Is Al or Sam Talking for him saying he need to win the rematch? I'm starting to think we all be played hard.

[MickG]

What's your assessment of Joshua's question to his corner at the end of the 6th of 'why do I feel like this ?'.

He's been hit hard and buzzed before, most noticeably by Klitschko, where the impact was far more forceful, so it seemed a bizarre and mildly worrying question.

Yeah that's what I noticed too and it stuck in my head so I rewatched paying attention to how he was hit. He also kept asking his corner what to expect from Ruiz, like he was back in the gym. I think his sense of awareness was gone after the 3rd round, due to the reduced oxygen to the brain. Watched him talking on YouTube today and thankfully seems more like himself.