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  • #61
    Originally posted by hitking View Post
    Great fighters don’t lose to Joseph Parker.
    have you seen that fight? It was close but the wrong man won and it was a learning experience at the highest level. Andy has the momentum and he doesn't have the damage other heavyweights have. And he un-noticeably more athletic than the top 10.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by petegrif View Post
      Funnily enough I think Wilder did have an impact on this fight but not in the obvious way.

      Wilder just blasted out Br**. We can all agree on that.

      So AJ was under pressure to put on an impressive performance. I think even the most fervent AJ haters can agree on that.

      So when he floored Ruiz in the third he saw an opportunity to make a statement and rushed in to finish. Bad judgement. He didn't take a good enough look at Ruiz, which he normally does before committing and he got caught.

      No disrespect to Ruiz who has fast hard hands and got caught by some monster shots and walked through them. The guy is desert tough. He got little respect before the fight but has made his point. Happy for him.

      And respect to AJ for his sportsmanship. It would be nice if some of the loud mouthed vulgarians on there showed the same class.
      If AJ allowed Wilder’s performance against Breazeale to affect the way he fought Ruiz, he’s a complete idiot. You fight your fight. That’s one thing Floyd Mayweather always did. Floyd could go twelve rounds with someone being Floyd. And dominate them just as thoroughly as someone like Manny could in KOing the same guy in three rounds. Their styles are different and gonna produce different results. AJ isn’t Wilder. Their fights against Breazeale are a prime example. AJ whipped Breazeale’s ass just as bad, if not worse than Wilder did. The only difference is that Breazeale was able to remain conscious when AJ tagged where he wasn’t when Wilder touched him.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Boxfan83 View Post
        have you seen that fight? It was close but the wrong man won and it was a learning experience at the highest level. Andy has the momentum and he doesn't have the damage other heavyweights have. And he un-noticeably more athletic than the top 10.
        I saw the fight, and it was close. Close enough that a draw or one or two point win either way is acceptable. Maybe I should have phrased my post differently. I think a great fighter dominates a guy like Parker.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Boxfan83 View Post
          have you seen that fight? It was close but the wrong man won and it was a learning experience at the highest level. Andy has the momentum and he doesn't have the damage other heavyweights have. And he un-noticeably more athletic than the top 10.
          The wrong man didn’t win Parker soundly beat him 8-4

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          • #65
            Originally posted by A.K View Post
            The wrong man didn’t win Parker soundly beat him 8-4
            I have no problem with some1 saying Parker won but Parkers a top 5 HW & it was not an easy or pretty win & Parker had hometown/country advantage.

            My point is, MFers act like Andy Ruiz got lucky or is going to just bend over and give up his belts. Any1 that steps in with Andy is in for a fight no matter the size.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by hitking View Post
              Great fighters don’t lose to Joseph Parker.
              Yea thats a good point.....but hey maybe he learned from it!! i think and always said joshua was over rated and maybe thats what really happened mayby ruiz is not an elite fighter or the real deal, but maybe hewas just better than joshua!! so even if ruiz wins the rematch we still wont know for sure!!! but what we will know is that joshua was not real!!

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Boxfan83 View Post
                lmao, yeah man I agree wholeheartedly. People act like this is a fluke, Ruiz could very well be special.
                I’m happy for Ruiz and he deserves all the love he’s getting for his performance. But ultimately, this fight will likely be remembered as the night we found out AJ wasn’t special. Not the night we found out Ruiz was special. There’s a solid number of top ten heavyweights I’d pick to beat Ruiz. And I don’t think he has a prayer against the now Big II in the division. AJ blasted Ruiz with some big straight right hands, even after he was badly hurt in the third. We all know what happens to Andy if the same thing occurs when he’s in with Wilder. As for Fury, I have a hard time seeing Andy winning a round against Tyson.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Boxfan83 View Post
                  I have no problem with some1 saying Parker won but Parkers a top 5 HW & it was not an easy or pretty win & Parker had hometown/country advantage.

                  My point is, MFers act like Andy Ruiz got lucky or is going to just bend over and give up his belts. Any1 that steps in with Andy is in for a fight no matter the size.
                  Parker’s a top five heavyweight???

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Sable&Whitefish View Post
                    I'm sick of everyone making excuses for AJ. He had a good camp, he was healthy, he had thousands of supporters at MSG, he didn't take Ruiz lightly... he lost fair and square! You can't explain it away as much as everyone would like to. He can come back, but to falsely claim that he was unprepared (when his own team says otherwise) is ignorant and disrespectful to Ruiz.
                    Exactly, well said! I think it stems from all the hype & hoopla surrounding him in the UK. Those huge sold out venues in the UK couldnt possibly have been sold out for this version of folding metal!?!?? Could it?? The answer is a resounding YES!! Thats WHY he needed to come here, to be another average Joe having to PROVE his HYPED UP worth.

                    He looked like the same ole' Joshua, just without the kinetic fan WORSHIP drunk energy that makes everything he does look SUPER spectacular against part time fighters....We instictively "DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE" over here.. We see him AS IS! Ruiz IIIS good enough to dismantle tall fighters if he's allowed to come inside. Thats no hype. His carb body is very deceiving, although his belly does seems to be smaller/flatter than his last fight before AJ.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by hitking View Post
                      I’m happy for Ruiz and he deserves all the love he’s getting for his performance. But ultimately, this fight will likely be remembered as the night we found out AJ wasn’t special. Not the night we found out Ruiz was special. There’s a solid number of top ten heavyweights I’d pick to beat Ruiz. And I don’t think he has a prayer against the now Big II in the division. AJ blasted Ruiz with some big straight right hands, even after he was badly hurt in the third. We all know what happens to Andy if the same thing occurs when he’s in with Wilder. As for Fury, I have a hard time seeing Andy winning a round against Tyson.
                      1 thing you have to remember, this is boxing at the highest level and you will get hit! It really matters more on how you take it and how you react. AJ's been down many times and has come back to win by KO/TKO. Problem this time he just ran into someone tougher. If anything Andy showed a "special" level of heart and you cant teach that. AJ leveled Ruiz and Ruiz got in his chest and threw down like a bad ass. There wasn't a HW in the game until Sunday morning that would've want to exchange lefts with AJ...


                      Honestly I think Usyk and Fury give Ruiz the hardest time because Fury can move and Usyk can match speed. Wilder IMO is another flawed mystery like AJ was.

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