Comments Thread For: Wilder: Joshua Refused To FaceTime, Good To See Them Begging

[MulaKO]

According to Wilder, he made an attempt to have a private conversation with Joshua on FaceTime - and he claims the British star had refused to have a conversation without a third party involved on his side.

First of all AJ is a hell of a fighter but he's not the brightest crayon in the box. Hearn knows if AJ did the talking Wilder would somehow end up with a 70/30 split in Wilder's favor and fk up everything and they would have to do damage control to right the ship.

Number 2 Facetime doesn't constitute him being scared. AJ has other sh** going on probably he's a millionaire and he has to train for his fight. But I will say AJ could have texted him back and be like "I told yo @$$ I was at the strip club hmu tomorrow fool I'm trying to see some breasts in my face!!"

They are both in on this sh** trying to marinate the fight to the max. They want this to be bigger than the Mayweather and Pacquiao fight that's why this is happening.

I also believe that , at this point , they’re all in on it
They’re just soaking this chit as much as they can
Hey , numbers are just going up business wise
But just get it the fugh over
It’s nauseating and boring ( Floyd -Pac ) all over again just more drama
WoW

[TScott2254]

Less than a year ago Deontay Wilder accepted the terms of agreement to fight AJ for $15 million in the UK. Remember that was the counter offer from AJ and Hearn to the $50 million guaranteed (AJ asked for), 50/50 if the fight does over $100 million to fight in the USA.

Here are legit sourced articles of that:

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...er-eddie-hearn

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...er-eddie-hearn

Notice the dates on the articles was June 11th and 12th. Also here is Wilder saying the same thing live:

https://twitter.com/BronzeBomber/sta...96747151273984 (on June 11th).

May 31, 2018 Povetkin was ordered as the Mandatory for the WBA belt. In less than an effin' month on June 26th WBA orders the fight for AJ to be done in 24 hours (it's there in the article):

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/anth...g1leysbmfkvo9l

Check Povetkin's boxrec (-http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/318081[/url]) he had just fought David Price on March 31, 2018. Then 2 months he is the mandatory (May 31, 2018), after Wilder agrees to terms to fight AJ next (June 11, 2018), WBA orders in 24 hours a deal needs to be reached for AJ to fight Povetkin (June 26, 2018).

You MF's can't be that delusional. I can do this all day and CHECK MATE FOR YOU HEARN FANS:

https://www.givemesport.com/1361266-carl-froch-blames-eddie-hearn-for-anthony-joshuas-fight-with-deontay-wilder-collapsing[/url]

Carl Froch told Eddie Hearn to his effin' face he was blocking the fight:

https://www.givemesport.com/1361266-...der-collapsing

Show some real receipts about Wilder ducking because after the nonsense on July 13, 2018 is when Wilder said eff it 50/50 or no deal:

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...ne-50-50-split

[CharlieStewart]

hes right that hearn and joshua are desperate for that green belt, and these guys are using that against them. wilder should be nowhere near 50% but he'll probably get it. joshua and hearn hold the cards they need to start acting like it. stalling the fight should only work in aj's favour anyway. hearn created this problem by constantly over paying guys and never being able to walk away from a deal.

[CharlieStewart]

This is not about Wilder being afraid of Anthony Joshua. This is more about Deontay punishing AJ for all of the broken promises his team has made in making this fight a reality a year ago. Now he has moved on and the last thing is on his mind at this time is Anthony Joshua.

this excuse died when he rejected dazns incredible offer where aj and hearn weren't even present.

[Laligalaliga]

This is not about Wilder being afraid of Anthony Joshua. This is more about Deontay punishing AJ for all of the broken promises his team has made in making this fight a reality a year ago. Now he has moved on and the last thing is on his mind at this time is Anthony Joshua.

We are all saying the same thing..he scammed us with that one face one name bla bla bla..... He should just come out straight and save us all these ups and down about face time.

[TScott2254]

this excuse died when he rejected dazns incredible offer where aj and hearn weren't even present.

Where in DAZN's offer AJ was part of that contract? You do realize AJ is not signed to DAZN right, so why does Wilder have to sign to DAZN to make that fight?

AJ PPV's are still in the UK why is AJ and Hearn trying to dictate the USA Market? If I'm correct all AJ fights in the USA are still Skysports PPV fights in the UK.

Lastly DAZN came back and apologize to Wilder. If DAZN really wanted to make that fight only offer Wilder the AJ fight and nothing else.

[blue_dolphin]

tables have turned. I remember not long ago Wilder was accused of "begging." now look at this..

[DaNeutral.]

tables have turned. I remember not long ago Wilder was accused of "begging." now look at this..

Who ever ever accused Wilder of begging? There was plenty talk of him demanding too much, which he still is but ive never seen him show any interest in wanting the fight let alone begging for it.

But im not sure why everybody thinks its such a bad thing on Joshua or a good thing on Wilder that Josuha is begging for this fight, or the fact that Deontay is not only turning down 100 million but is declining to even make an attempt at any form of negotiations and has filled his calendar so its not even in sight in the near future. I dont see how thats a bad look on Joshua or a good look on Wilder, especially the latter.

And you can talk about some Team Wilder master plan, long term goal and all that but you seen social media? Wilders getting a pasting, I think his stock, worth, value, what ever you want to call it is on shaky ground and to be honest the numbers his last fight did sort of back that up. Maybe he needs to knock back on the killing talk and do a bit less ducking it will be fine.

[hitking]

Where in DAZN's offer AJ was part of that contract? You do realize AJ is not signed to DAZN right, so why does Wilder have to sign to DAZN to make that fight?

AJ PPV's are still in the UK why is AJ and Hearn trying to dictate the USA Market? If I'm correct all AJ fights in the USA are still Skysports PPV fights in the UK.

Lastly DAZN came back and apologize to Wilder. If DAZN really wanted to make that fight only offer Wilder the AJ fight and nothing else.

AJ isn’t signed to a multi-fight deal with DAZN? That’s news to me.

[CharlieStewart]

Where in DAZN's offer AJ was part of that contract? You do realize AJ is not signed to DAZN right, so why does Wilder have to sign to DAZN to make that fight?

AJ PPV's are still in the UK why is AJ and Hearn trying to dictate the USA Market? If I'm correct all AJ fights in the USA are still Skysports PPV fights in the UK.

Lastly DAZN came back and apologize to Wilder. If DAZN really wanted to make that fight only offer Wilder the AJ fight and nothing else.

This is boring.

1.2 AJ fights were in both offers the $100m 3 fight deal and the $120m 4 fight deal
2.DAZN have first refusal on AJ fights, it's Wilder who has no deal with Showtime. Showtime are not going to outbid DAZN for an AJ/Wilder fight, Wilder doesn't have to sign with DAZN to make the fight, but it's where the money is currently.
3.From day dot Wilders team have refused to negotiate so dictating? nonsense, they're offers, ones which AJ/Hearn haveconstantly (and unnecessarily imo) made concessions.
4.At the time Wilder had already signed up to fight Breazele as WBC made him his mando, so just an AJ fight deal couldn't have been done at that time, it could've been done now after AJ beats Ruiz, but Wilder signed up to fight someone else again before that happened.

It's like you Wilder fan boys just don't pay attention or try to rewrite the narrative like we don't. Wilder has rejected one fight deals, two fight deals, three fight deals, accepted offers but then rejected them based on no venue, then stalled the fight by signing up to other fights without dates and venue.
Wilders list of excuses are nothing but contradictions, you can't make sense of someone 'begging for' the fight then accuse them being the ones of ducking. The man turned down $120m with two guaranteed shots at undisputed to fight irrelevant fights for a couple M's. He say she say is over, moment Wilder turned down that deal Wilder became the sole reason the fight ain't happening, End of.