Comments Thread For: Hearn: I Told You, Truth Comes Out - Wilder Don't Want Joshua!

[MC Hammer]

they wont ever agree bro ur wasting your time, meanwhile aj fights very soon and nobody is talking about it

You know what, you're right. The reply even to the proof given was "well it wasn't on Fox maybe because of the Wilder Fury numbers". I guess some people will believe whatever they want

[Sid-Knee]

Listen, you British guys have three belts. We Americans only have one.

We actually have four because Fury beat Wilder. But that coward had corruption to back him up like Americans love so much.

[Sid-Knee]

Shut up you keyboard flunky

No, make me?

Now bow down and kiss your masters noodle like a good little boy. You're actually good at doing that.

[Sid-Knee]

Now you are the one who is doing the trolling. Wilder accepted and agreed to all of Joshua's demands and terms for that fight. It was never about the money.

He agreed to the $12.5mil flat-fee, with no guarantee, percentage or rematch clause and fighting on Joshua's home soil in Britain until AJ asked for $50mill. Then Joshua countered with a $15mil offer for the fight to be held in the U.K.

Once again Wilder acquiesced to all of the demands as before and then the excuses started flowing; Joshua needs a 12 week training camp for the fight and the fight couldn't happen in the month of September due to Canelo/Golovkin.

When it was time to sign the fight Joshua rescinded the contract and fought Alexander Povetkin instead. Those are the facts Sid. You can be in denial all you want but they aren't going away.

Believe me. I am not the delusional one here.

If Wilder agreed, wouldn't it have happened?

You're getting your times mixed up.

Wilder turned down the 12.5 Mill. He said the fight was worth 100 Mill, so AJ said to give him a 50 Mill offer. Wilder did but without them willing to sit down and talk about it. We also found out about BT Sport being involved too so it wasn't a go. Then Hearn offered the 15 Mill offer on the counter.

Finkle had that contract for ages thinking the WBA was going to call mandatory. But when it didn't come, Finkle knew it looked bad having the contract for so long without a response so got in touch with Eddie. But he sent the contract back unsigned because it didn't have a date and venue. You know, like Wilder's fights with Fury and now Ortiz didn't? With so much time gone the WBA wasn't waiting round much longer as they'd already given Eddie two extensions to try and make the fight. Finkle then made a f3ck up later by claiming they didn't accept the 15 Mill offer and showing their lies once again.

We've already established who the delusional one is. You won't accept it because.... You're delusional. They're the symptoms you see. It's the whole point of being delusional. You never accept truth or reality and just go about creating your own.

And they weren't demands by AJ. That's just normal practice for a fight in this situation. When has a weak B side been given a rematch clause their way? When did the A side HAVE to fight on away soil? When has a weak B side been offered 40% before for a fight? When has a scrub who hasn't done anything in their career after 11 years who doesn't sell tickets been given 50% before? If this is normal practice, you'll have no problem in giving me a good list of names from history at any weight class.

[Sid-Knee]

Hearn never said it would be next. He even said if we snuck one more fight in no one would mind, and that's exactly what they tried to do. It backfired cause "some guy from Alabama" outsmarted them and made his own lane. The fight will happen, for 50-50 in the US and Hearn and AJ would have had to humbled themselves in the process

Hearn didn't say that at all. He said they'd like to maybe get one more in but the fight with Wilder is the one they're going for. He said it would be Oct/Nov time. You can go watch interviews from that time and see him say it repeatedly.

AJ is the most humble guy out there. Wilder is the most narcissist and egotistical. He's the one who needs humbling. So it's clear you're looking at this in a biased way if this is the picture you're trying to paint. What are you going to say next? That AJ needs to stop running his mouth and start behaving like a normal person like Wilder?

You think ducking and lying all the time whilst contradicting yourself is "Out smarting"? Oh dear.

Put down the stars and stripes and leave the bias alone. Wilder will just keep making a fool of you lot with all this nonsense. Wilder is delusional and thick as mince. You don't have to follow him in doing that as well. Grow up.

[Sid-Knee]

Wow, that's like bragging about being the tallest midget.

He's a household name. Everyone knows who he is. He's known over here many times over what Wilder is in the states. And that's before we start moving on to other countries. Wilder on the other hand is seen for the small time nobody he truly is. It's only Americans who think otherwise. Although there are some who aren't nationalist and have some self respect and tell it like it is.

Wilder came over here and wished he could pull the same crowd AJ does. He said we're the best fans in the world. With you guys he can't even sell out an arena. How pathetic. Wilder could only dream of being a super star in his own country. But he isn't even one in Alabama. So if we're talking midgets, look no further than your coward and his shlt shows. AJ is going to be pulling in a bigger crowd in his fight over there. A real star and champ is in town now.

[whatismyname]

Because they can't! They can't mandate their champion to fight another organization's champion, only the #1 contenders ranked by the WBC.

GGG did it to Canelo, Kovalev did it to Stevenson. WBC has done this before

[OnlytheTruth]

You reaching now. It was on Showtime that's why it wasn't on Fox. It's like you're going out of your way to find a complaint.

AJ is doing a lot more than giving to firefighters. He is cutting prices, and doing by one get on frees out here. Go to StubHub and tell me this fight is selling well.

Like I've said before AJbis good on his little island, but across the pond his name doesn't ring bells

If Wilder is the benchmark of how to get your name out there in your home country then Joshua is already miles ahead of him. The basis of your argument is opinion only, really. You surmise that Wilder made the choice for the fight not to be on PPV. I simply am saying that 'I doubt' that.

However, Joshua sells very well. He could quite easily stay in the UK, make tens of millions, sell millions of PPV's, become Undisputed without ever having to go to the US. The venture into the US Market is just extending his profile which, IMO, he doesn't really need. Its Matchroom's strategy really.

Wilder only sells well in the UK if its against Fury or Wilder but seems that won't happen if its up to Wilder and/or Fury.

StubHub isn't a primary source of tickets though (As far as I am aware) so, the tickets on there by definition are already sold to someone which would skew the actual truth. I'm not sure who the primary seller is here so can't tell. If you know, I'd happily look

Either way, this is all tit for tat. I just want a Joshua win and a HUGE announcement after...if you know what I mean.

Peace, bro.

[Bronx2245]

GGG did it to Canelo, Kovalev did it to Stevenson. WBC has done this before

Different circumstances. GGG was the WBC "Interim" Champion, just like Charlo is now:

After scoring a sensational one-punch, sixth-round knockout of Amir Khan to retain the title May 7, Alvarez was mandated to fight Golovkin, the interim titleholder, with a likely date of Sept. 17, potentially at AT&T Stadium, home of the Dallas Cowboys.

Alvarez and Golden Boy CEO Oscar De La Hoya faced a Tuesday deadline to make the mandatory fight or the WBC would hold a purse bid, an auction in which promotional rights to the fight would have gone to the highest bidder. The bid amount is split between the fighters, generally a 55-45 split in the case of a WBC title fight between a titleholder and interim titlist.

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...adline-looming

It was highly unusual for the WBC to order Stevenson vs. Kovalev, but they announced that the winner of Kovalev vs. Pascal would become the mandatory! Maybe they will make the winner of Whyte vs. Rivas the mandatory to Wilder! Actually, I hope they do!

WBC, do your job, and order Canelo to face Charlo while you're at it!

[NachoMan]

He's a household name. Everyone knows who he is. He's known over here many times over what Wilder is in the states. And that's before we start moving on to other countries. Wilder on the other hand is seen for the small time nobody he truly is. It's only Americans who think otherwise. Although there are some who aren't nationalist and have some self respect and tell it like it is.

Wilder came over here and wished he could pull the same crowd AJ does. He said we're the best fans in the world. With you guys he can't even sell out an arena. How pathetic. Wilder could only dream of being a super star in his own country. But he isn't even one in Alabama. So if we're talking midgets, look no further than your coward and his shlt shows. AJ is going to be pulling in a bigger crowd in his fight over there. A real star and champ is in town now.

Hahaha! You are my favorite poster on these boards. So angry and insecure, but a wonderful sense of humor. I look forward to your future posts, Sid!