If Canelo beats Andrade who should rank higher as ATG beetween him and Andre Ward?

[nacho daddy]

Who the heck is Andrade? Dude hasn't really beaten anyone and is just now getting his career on track. Pump your brakes

scamdrade is another overrated black fighter like charcoal bros, heard, davis etc

[Mexican_Puppet]

Canelo was clearly beaten, outclassed even.

and the vast majority saw him lose to Golovkin in the first fight, and to Lara

Obviously it’s hard to make this argument without sounding like a hater, but I don’t feel those points above put him in the same bracket as Ward. We wouldn’t be having this discussion if his record wasn’t so manufactured by bad scoring.

Yes, a lot of people saw Ward beaten by Kovalev in the first fight, but avenged it fairly conclusively, and had a stellar career that was flawless prior to that. I don’t even think it’s close

Duran was K.O'd in two rounds.

Pacquiao was iced too.

Canelo was outboxed at 23 years against Floyd Mayweather JR.

What people said means nothing

Canelo won clearly the rematch against GGG and was more dominant than Ward in the rematch against Kovalev, that fight was finished by a punch to the balls.

Against Lara it was a fair result, it was not like Lara did a great job, he started well but only the 3 or 4 rounds.

Ward best win is Froch that was only a good fighter, nothing more.

Golovkin is way better.


You cant say who was the winner or not.


The funny thing is that Ward had the same competitive fights against Kovalev that was not better than GGG.


Canelo is young and he is getting better and better, getting a lot.of achievements.

Of fact, Ward respect Canelo a lot

[boliodogs]

I say Ward who you got and why?

I don't rate Ward that highly and already rate both GGG and Canelo higher than Ward right now. Beating Andrade does not raise Canelo up at all in my opinion. I don't think Andrade is very good and I don't think he has ever defeated even one legit top 10 middleweight contender. If he has then name the top 10 middleweight he beat. I expect Canelo would easily beat Andrade. If he lost to Andrade it would lower Canelo a lot for me and of course raise Andrade up.

[Rip Chudd]

scamdrade is another overrated black fighter like charcoal bros, heard, davis etc

Your pathetic attempt at racist nicknames isn't amusing to anyone but yourself.

Andrade isn't overrated at all, he needs to do something to even be rated. People think he is a good fighter but he needs names to prove himself. Charlo brothers WERE a bit overrated at one point but their past bouts have people seeing the light. Every fighter out there needs to prove themselves, the eyeball test will only get you so far

[boliodogs]

Can Canelo finish his f'ing career first? We now labeling people all time greats before we see them perform on the decline? Two threads about the same fighter..

Others may disagree but I sure don't consider Ward an all time great and I don't think Canelo is there yet either. As far as I am concerned the 36 and 37 year old GGG beat the 27 and 28 your old Canelo twice and to me with 20 successful middleweight title defenses and 94% KO wins is more of an all time great that Ward or Canelo at this point in time.

[Dreamking]

Canelo > Ward.

[nacho daddy]

your pathetic attempt at racist nicknames isn't amusing to anyone but yourself.

Andrade isn't overrated at all, he needs to do something to even be rated. People think he is a good fighter but he needs names to prove himself. Charlo brothers were a bit overrated at one point but their past bouts have people seeing the light. Every fighter out there needs to prove themselves, the eyeball test will only get you so far

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCIIIIIIIISSSSTTTTTTT alert!!!!!! batten down the hatches it is the end of the earth

[turnedup]

Others may disagree but I sure don't consider Ward an all time great and I don't think Canelo is there yet either. As far as I am concerned the 36 and 37 year old GGG beat the 27 and 28 your old Canelo twice and to me with 20 successful middleweight title defenses and 94% KO wins is more of an all time great that Ward or Canelo at this point in time.

Dude I really respect the mexican contribution to the sport but every race demographic in boxing has a bunch of f'ing idiot fans including them (no ofendo los que si son fanaticos de el deporte no solo un boxeador). You would think Canelo walks on water and craps caviar the way his cok get slobbered.He's a great fighter but he barely got by a guy these same morons call "a bum tomato can." It's almost like Floyd and Manny the idiot fans actually turn you off to supporting the guy because they can't keep their nonsense and science fiction based views under control

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

Ward best win is Froch that was only a good fighter, nothing more.

Hey Hey Put some Respect on Carl Froch name! That boy is a straight up G and although he doesnt display great boxing fluidity and may leave you feeling lacking when it comes to the eyeball test, he more than makes up for it in shear tenacity! Froch is an elite fighter who competed at the highest level and literally won every fight but 2 and avenged one of those loses! Thats with having one of the hardest resumes boxing had during his time of activity.

[Mexican_Puppet]

Others may disagree but I sure don't consider Ward an all time great and I don't think Canelo is there yet either. As far as I am concerned the 36 and 37 year old GGG beat the 27 and 28 your old Canelo twice and to me with 20 successful middleweight title defenses and 94% KO wins is more of an all time great that Ward or Canelo at this point in time.

Canelo won the rematch against GGG, other things are only your wet dreams .

GGG barely won that fight against Jacobs and Canelo whooped his ass


GGG missed 1000 punches in both fights

Lol