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  • #41
    Originally posted by techliam View Post
    Inoue has beaten numerous world champions. Ortiz isn’t one, even in a weak HW division
    Bantamweight is even more talent-strapped than Hw. I don't care about titlists. I can go to the local nursing home, promise extra jello for desert, and hand a belt to the winner of the ensuing battle royale. And there, you got a title holder.

    I will also let you in on the fact that Japan is very relaxed in their testing standards. Even Rich Piana wouldn't have pissed hot there.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
      If Fury were a Bantamweight, he'd be considered the second-coming of Willie Pep. Seriously, the guy is the best Heavyweight we've seen. And that's in spite of his weight. There's really no shame in losing to Fury. Even a lop-sided disaster. Wilder at least kept himself a serious threat until the final bell.

      Really, who on Inoue's record is as good as Ortiz?


      I have wrestled and coached wrestling for a long time. I know the results added weight has on the human body. I can find you lots of Inoues. Wilder is much rarer.
      Fury?

      This guy is sloppy and does not know how to land combinations

      If Fury were a bantam he won't be able to be champion


      Heavyweights are the most límited fighters and lacks of skills of all the boxing world

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View Post
        Fury?

        This guy is sloppy and does not know how to land combinations

        If Fury were a bantam he won't be able to be champion


        Heavyweights are the most límited fighters and lacks of skills of all the boxing world
        Yeah, you clearly don't play sports, never have.

        Why do you think you never see a JJ Watt on any olympic team performing rhythmic gymanstics?

        Fury is about 7' tall, and over 250 pounds. Gravity HATES him. But he's the best out-boxer we've seen since Gene TUnney, and more technically sound. He can also fight for a full 12 rounds, and bounce back from lethal punches.

        No one is saying he's a ballerina, or the most complete fighter, but he's the best Heavyweight pure-boxer we've seen.

        Look at a little guy like Arguello, and how even at 130ish pounds he could still get out-slicked. Even the all-mighty Duran struggled mightily against slicksters. The bigger you get, the harder it is to maintain coordination, speed and stamina. This is a given to anyone who's played sports.

        Besides, below Feathweight/Jr Lightweight, Boxing is a talent graveyard. There's very few healthy adult men who can get that small. It's mostly people from South America and Asia fighting in those divisions. What athletes do you hear about coming from there? You once told me that Japan and Mexico had most of the champions from these weight divisions. Well those are huge countries, but what pro-athletes of merit do they really produce outside of Boxing?

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
          Yeah, you clearly don't play sports, never have.

          Why do you think you never see a JJ Watt on any olympic team performing rhythmic gymanstics?

          Fury is about 7' tall, and over 250 pounds. Gravity HATES him. But he's the best out-boxer we've seen since Gene TUnney, and more technically sound. He can also fight for a full 12 rounds, and bounce back from lethal punches.

          No one is saying he's a ballerina, or the most complete fighter, but he's the best Heavyweight pure-boxer we've seen.

          Look at a little guy like Arguello, and how even at 130ish pounds he could still get out-slicked. Even the all-mighty Duran struggled mightily against slicksters. The bigger you get, the harder it is to maintain coordination, speed and stamina. This is a given to anyone who's played sports.

          Besides, below Feathweight/Jr Lightweight, Boxing is a talent graveyard. There's very few healthy adult men who can get that small. It's mostly people from South America and Asia fighting in those divisions. What athletes do you hear about coming from there? You once told me that Japan and Mexico had most of the champions from these weight divisions. Well those are huge countries, but what pro-athletes of merit do they really produce outside of Boxing?
          ..

          Explain me how Gravity makes Fury don't throw combinations ?

          Fury does not have skills of elite level.

          Period

          He does not know throw combinations, hook to the body,

          And he likes to clinch a lot

          Man, you don't know shi.t

          I practice boxing and calisthenic

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View Post
            Narváez Lost against Orucuta in their first Match

            Wade was never stopped before GGG fight

            Steve Rolls was never stopped before

            That means sh.it

            It counts your level of opossition

            If you chin is proven

            Rodríguez barely won the fight against Moloney

            Only in your wet dreams Inoue will K.O Nery in two rounds he is not that sh.it like Rodríguez that blocked all the punches with his face and has not footwork and defense

            You are crazy if you think Inoue is higher than Canelo

            He has a lot of potential but needs better achievements and rivals

            An old Donaire would.be his bigger rival
            Canelo lost both GGG fights imo, I don't have GGG top 3 at the moment however because p4p I think Inoue is better. Loma, Crawford then Inoue.

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            • #46
              OK? Why are people emotional over HIS OPINION?

              P4P Rankings means absolutely NOTHING!

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              • #47
                So if Donaire pulls off the upset he's #1 p4p?

                That would be hilarious.

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                • #48
                  No he isn't p4p. It's like having Pac on p4p lists. They're both special, Pac obviously more so but they got their p4p credentials way back. It would be a case of Monster Inoue losing to a HOF rolling back the years and proving doubters wrong. I expect Inoue to beat Donaire but he'd need to beat Nery at 118 or 122 for him to be no.1, and that's not taking in to account that Crawford and Loma and others also picking up more wins.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View Post
                    ..

                    Explain me how Gravity makes Fury don't throw combinations ?

                    Fury does not have skills of elite level.

                    Period

                    He does not know throw combinations, hook to the body,

                    And he likes to clinch a lot

                    Man, you don't know shi.t

                    I practice boxing and calisthenic

                    Surprise, surprise, no new arguments. Instead just revisiting points I've already addressed. Do you really expect an ogre like Fury to fight the same as a lawn gnome like Finito Lopez?

                    I know I give you a hard time. And I have backed you into a corner here. I actually like you. You are respectable. Don't take anything I say too personal.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by £-4-£ View Post
                      Canelo lost both GGG fights imo, I don't have GGG top 3 at the moment however because p4p I think Inoue is better. Loma, Crawford then Inoue.
                      No, only in your mind he lost both fights with GGG. The rematch is a clear win to Canelo.

                      He need to show he is better but at the moment he is not and his best win is a trash win.

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