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Last edited by MrShakeAndBake; 05-26-2019, 02:51 AM.
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Pedraza comfortable at 135 and talking 140, I believe him when he says he was drained at 130 for Tank.
Loma remains small at 135, and if we care to remember, was coming off that shoulder surgery.
To compare Tank vs a 130 Pedraza to Loma vs 135 Pedraza misses a few important details in my book. A fully healthy Loma at 130 (his more natural weight) would have cleaned a drained Pedrazas clock at that weight like Tank did - how would a 135 Tank do vs a 135 Pedraza ? There's the better question
Pedraza looked more like he was sparring and trying different stuff out for most of this fight, not really sitting down on his punches until late - a good workout for him. If other fighters need to be named, its Verdejo...
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Originally posted by MEXfistology View PostAll these fights make tank Davis look very good and a killer and they make lomachenko look averageOriginally posted by BoxingIsGreat View PostThe truest post here. Gervonta dealt dismissively with Pedraza en route to a vicious KO.
Loma's performance vs Pedraza, despite still not being 100% physically, was much more impressive than Tank's. Both Loma and Tank got Pedraza to the same exact spot in the fight. Once that happened, Pedraza was saved by the bell vs Loma, whereas vs Tank, the ref stopped it, but it was the same exact situation for Pedraza. The only difference, the ONLY thing Tank did better than Loma, is that Tank got him there in 7 rounds, while it took Loma 11.
That's the one thing Tank did better. The only thing. And when you understand that Pedraza came to fight Tank, and tried to be a pressure fighter, whereas vs Loma he boxed to his strengths, then even that is not really more impressive than Loma. Getting a mover that hurt in 11 rounds is actually more impressive than getting a mover trying to box like a pressure fighter hurt in 7 rounds.
Then you add in that Tank was healthy, Loma was not. Then you add in that Pedraza was an unhealthy 130 pounder, while Loma beat the best version at 135. Then you add in Loma got hit way less than Tank. Then you add in that Pedraza laughed when a reporter asked him who was better, Loma or Tank, and said Loma without a second thought. Then you add in that all of Pedraza's best performances besides I guess Farmer (who is overrated) have come at 135, vs Beltran, Loma, and Lozada.
All these things are hints to a hardcore boxing fan that Loma's performance was much more impressive, and that Loma is a much better boxer than Tank. If the opposite were true, than Al would make Loma-Tank and let Tank beat Loma and make a ton of money, but Al is a hardcore boxing guy, and he probably employs pro matchmakers who tell him how fights will go, so just because you guys think Tank is better doesn't change the reality that Al knows otherwise and that's why he refuses to make the fight.
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Pedraza drew a masterpiece in there last night. I was blown away by his fluidity and changing styles mid round. He went from sniping away with counters on the backfoot, to toe to toe slugger who's accuracy was unmatched by his counterpart, then punching in between his enemies wild combos. Timing, accurate and sizzling combinations. He was focused, stood in front of Lozada while he was unloading and managed to slip the flurries and respond beautifully.
What a great showing. Pedraza shows glimpses of greatness when he is on point.
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Originally posted by DuckAdonis View PostWhat a ******ed comment. How does Pedraza beating guys make Lomachenko look bad? Did you forget that Loma kicked his ass as well?
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Originally posted by daggum View Posthere on boxingscene pedraza was robbed or at the very least it was razor close and pedraza beat up loma. maybe that happened and maybe it didnt but it happened on boxingscene so thats all that matters
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