What about Marquez?

[Dirt E Gomez]

Pac isn't the same one dimensional fighter that JMM fought 2 years ago. That being said, JMM might still be able to outbox him enough for the win but Pacquiao with his better arsenal of punches has a better chance of still landing some shots.

[Dirt E Gomez]

marquez did not go for the rematch, instead fought chris john -- he lost big time.

Oh, and I had to quote this. That's so incorrect it's not even funny. The judges' scorecards don't reflect how the match was at all.

[ferocity]

Pac isn't the same one dimensional fighter that JMM fought 2 years ago. That being said, JMM might still be able to outbox him enough for the win but Pacquiao with his better arsenal of punches has a better chance of still landing some shots.

Marquez is only going to fight a better fight then the first fight. Pacquiao used Cleto Reyes gloves and knocked him down 3 times but just as fast Marquez got up and made the fight a draw, though i thought he won, after the knockdown he dominated Pacquiao.

[Dirt E Gomez]

Marquez is only going to fight a better fight then the first fight. Pacquiao used Cleto Reyes gloves and knocked him down 3 times but just as fast Marquez got up and made the fight a draw, though i thought he won, after the knockdown he dominated Pacquiao.

You're blinded by your hatered/love. Just look at it this way. Has Marquez improved a noticable amount since his fight with Pacquiao? Not speculation about will he for the fight, but has he?

Then, ask yourself if Pacquiao has improved? Pacquiao's last performances have proven he's better than ever.

I'm not saying JMM wouldn't have a chance, but I definitely wouldn't favor him.

[ferocity]

You're blinded by your hatered/love. Just look at it this way. Has Marquez improved a noticable amount since his fight with Pacquiao? Not speculation about will he for the fight, but has he?

Then, ask yourself if Pacquiao has improved? Pacquiao's last performances have proven he's better than ever.

I'm not saying JMM wouldn't have a chance, but I definitely wouldn't favor him.

I didn't see no improvement when he fought Morales for the second time, and Marquez is Marquez, he makes everybody fight his fight cause he's that good, Pacquiao want to go to Marquez body, i like to see him try, Marquez went to the body in their first fight and if Pacquiao can get in close then that only leave him open for more body shots.

And its not hate, its called calling it how I see it. I remember Marquez from his day at the Great Western Fourm and the KCAL Fight Nights television his fights, Im very familiar with Marquez and know what his is capable of and Pacquiao found out first hand. Roach keeps screaming for Barrera but he's silent when is comes to getting a rematch with Marquez who now has a new manager making a deal between Pacquiao and Marquez that much easier.

[miron_lang]

Oh, and I had to quote this. That's so incorrect it's not even funny. The judges' scorecards don't reflect how the match was at all.

JMM shouldve won that fight by 2 to 3 pts outside of indonesia.


when he signed the contract to fight there, his fight plan should be for a KO or a 'DOMINATING PERFORMANCE' he shouldve expected that.

John won a few rounds and i think thats enough for the homeboy to 'win'

[PATO 1]

i agree with ferocity fredddie roach always mentions barrera as he is a big name but past his best

Pacquiao nuthuggers never seem 2 actually comment on the marquez fight they seem2 just keep sayin pacman has improved .but he wont beat marquez

marquez was the first fighter like tarver against jones taylor against hopkins to stick a jab in front of pacman all night long with pamans chlish lunges making him look amateurish

marquez easy ud 12 somethin like 117-110

[loui_ludwig]

Marquez lost to Chris John, not by robbery,after all the officials were not Indonesians. Chris John was the better fighter that night. Marquez was penalized for punching below the belt, the ref was doing his job, so u can't blame Chris John, the ref, or the judges, blame Marquez for the point deduction.

As far as Pac vs Marquez 2004 fight, one judge scored the 1st round 10-7 instead 10-6. And for those ur saying JMM school Pac, i don't call punching below the belt as outboxing an opponent(which he should have been penalize for that, did it a couple times).

We know Pac lost to Morales by UD, but its not exactly one sided beat down. They have rematches because of either controversial decision or it was a battle, ex. Gatti-Ward, Barrera-Morales, Castillo-Corralles. If it is a 1 sided win, then the 1st fight, EM should have won by 5 points or more.

Pac might be 1 dimensional fighter, but he has worked and improved on his weaknesses, and his at the top right because he is willing to go toe to toe with anybody. I can't say that about JMM, yeah he wanted more money, but look at his fights after Pac, its not exactly a good resume when he was pound for pound top 10 fighter. Barrera-Juarez fight should have been a draw. Barrerea also stated wanted to fight Pac, then signging to fight Juarez. Erik Morales, i can't say anything bad about him, yeah he talk thrash, but he goes into the ring and gave his all.

[SnoopySmurf]

JMM needs to fight Barrera and Morales as well as Pacman. Then perhaps, he'll get the money he deserves. I bet he beats Barrera and Morales, though.

[King Koyle]

** You don't think very well. JMM turned down big money to rematch Manny, preferring to fight and lose in Indonesia for chump change. Don't know what his future holds, but he obviously needs to upgrade his stategy just as you need to upgrade your thinking.

You need to upgrade your reading skills.All I said was JMM gave Pac plenty of trouble in their fight,and the rematch should be made.But I don't think JMM wants it.I know perfectly well about JMM pricing himself out.Which is why I stated "I don't think JMM wants it".Now go away,adults are talking.