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  • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
    He's better than Stiverne, and you know it.

    How many times has Martin been KO'd by journeymen or 7 fight novices?



    don't be so fkn ridiculous kafkod

    Martin has fought NOBODY other than Joshua

    Stiverne was at least a level above Martin..... who is not, has never been, and never will be..... a top heavyweight

    you are making the exact same dumb excuses for Joshua that you made for Golovkin

    the ONLY conclusion a knowledgeable fan could possibly come to when the IBF ordered Martin/Glazkov is..... ewww, the IBF suck

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    • Originally posted by Toffee View Post
      Nor his performance against Kauffman.

      In fact, can someone explain which performance does make him number 4?

      Because as far as I can tell it's based on an amateur career no-one witnessed, a defeat to Wilder, his nationality, and a complete ignorance of his age.
      His win over Jennings maybe? 🤷🏿*♂️

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      • Originally posted by leeroy84 View Post
        Why is Ortiz a back up plan??? What has he done?? He is awful... Couldn't even dent Hammer FFS and turned down $7m against AJ for this rematch!!?? hello alarm bells????

        Expect a Wilder Ko within 6 rds this time

        Awfuly weak looking move by Wilder, at a time he should be flying, he's scraping the barrel again

        Why can't he just believe in himself

        sad times
        the same reason pedvtkin was a back up plan, did u see his fight prior to aj?

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        • Originally posted by uppercut510 View Post
          the same reason pedvtkin was a back up plan, did u see his fight prior to aj?
          Povetkin was a mandatory. FFS these Wilder stans know **** all.

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          • Originally posted by hitking View Post
            Which bum hasn’t AJ beaten that his fanboys didn’t claim was Joe Louis reincarnated???
            right, they hype up everyone AJ fights... look how they did takkam "tough akward fighter", parker "tough competitor with skill", ruiz "skilled" pedvtkin "3rd best HW with power" even though he looked like complete sht in his fight b4 aj... they sht on anyone elses opponent especially wilder and big up any aj opponent. now I wouldn't say takaam, parker, and ruiz, pedvtkin are complete bums, they are decent in the batch of current HWs we have; but to call Ortiz a bum and constantly post daily about all the bums wilder fights but big these guys up is too much!

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            • Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
              Povetkin was a mandatory. FFS these Wilder stans know **** all.
              that wasn't my point, the point is you all try to downplay Ortiz as a bum and hype up guys like takaam parker and pedvtkin who hasn't done anything of late and has looked terrible. And a unification trumps a mandatory

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              • Originally posted by uppercut510 View Post
                that wasn't my point, the point is you all try to downplay Ortiz as a bum and hype up guys like takaam parker and pedvtkin who hasn't done anything of late and has looked terrible. And a unification trumps a mandatory
                You tried to claim Povetkin was a back up plan because he was a cherry pick. Don't go trying to deflect now.

                Povetkin>>>>>Ortiz. Not even comparable, look at the achievements and resumes.

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                • Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                  You tried to claim Povetkin was a back up plan because he was a cherry pick. Don't go trying to deflect now.

                  Povetkin>>>>>Ortiz. Not even comparable, look at the achievements and resumes.
                  how is pedvtkin a cherry pick amongst this current batch of HWs we have???????????? and lmao at not comparable, maybe resume wise pedvtkin has the edge, of course... ive always said that, but skill wise I think they are neck n neck

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                  • Originally posted by uppercut510 View Post
                    how is pedvtkin a cherry pick amongst this current batch of HWs we have???????????? and lmao at not comparable, maybe resume wise pedvtkin has the edge, of course... ive always said that, but skill wise I think they are neck n neck
                    Not even close. Pvetkin was a gold medallist, won a world title. Ortiz has done neither, couldn't get to the Olympics. Resume and achievements are proof of skill.

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                    • Originally posted by uppercut510 View Post
                      the same reason pedvtkin was a back up plan, did u see his fight prior to aj?
                      I thought Pov was a WBA mando.... If were cool dissing mandos then Breazeale is ALOT worse than Poverkin

                      And I'm not sure Ortiz II is a mando buddy.............

                      Ortiz II stinks, no excuses whatsoever

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