Comments Thread For: Thurman on PEDs: Let Pacquaio Take Whatever the F*** He Wants!

[The Big Dunn]

So that is a yes then, you can't be sure Mayweather was not on PEDS for all these fights prior.

Out of USADA and VADA which organization has a better record of catching cheats?

We can’t be sure about Manny. With Floyd he reached a point where all his fights had testing. Manny just recently had a fight where there was none.

Whatever happened before advanced PED testing became a regular occurrence is a different subject for another thread.

As for this fight, if there is no USADA Or Vada testing, we can’t be sure either guy is clean. That is a problem we need to discuss as opposed to history.

[The Big Dunn]

You going back and forth with a hardcore groupie. The guy is pure hate and pure blind love for certain fighter. I expose his double standard everytime I got a chance and he never has answers.

He's a smart dude but he's such a groupie its blinding him

Once again you attack me for no reason. The fight has no advanced PED testing that we know of. If you are such a boxing fan that cares about the sport then discuss the facts.

Instead, because you are a big manny fan, you make it about me. No matter how you label me, the fact is there is no advanced PED testing for this fight as of now.

Let’s see if you are such a “boxing fan” that you can discuss this being wrong and how this makes someone you are a big fan of look.

[kushking]

Canelo is a ceetified PED cheater that's why he got banned in boxing for several months. It's a sad truth bro. he should had use floyd IV to pass the test.

Thats untrue,he was cleared AFTER nsac gave him the required 6 mo suspension to prove he was clean & they demanded a hair follicle test that proved he was clean. Thats why he wasn't punished at all by any of the abcs

[sugarsmosley]

We can’t be sure about Manny. With Floyd he reached a point where all his fights had testing. Manny just recently had a fight where there was none.

Whatever happened before advanced PED testing became a regular occurrence is a different subject for another thread.

As for this fight, if there is no USADA Or Vada testing, we can’t be sure either guy is clean. That is a problem we need to discuss as opposed to history.

IMO PAC has been taking PEDS since he was 13. If he wins this fight thats automatically due to PED use IMO

[pasawayako]

Thats untrue,he was cleared AFTER nsac gave him the required 6 mo suspension to prove he was clean & they demanded a hair follicle test that proved he was clean. Thats why he wasn't punished at all by any of the abcs

Sorry bro. Canelo got caught with PEDS you can't change that facts and he was punish by a 6 months suspension. That facts will never be erased in the history of boxing.

[pasawayako]

USA has the most advance PEDS available now and that's probably the reason why they have many boxers competing in the sport and the reason why so many american boxers got caught cheating.

[angkag]

Thats untrue,he was cleared AFTER nsac gave him the required 6 mo suspension to prove he was clean & they demanded a hair follicle test that proved he was clean. Thats why he wasn't punished at all by any of the abcs

Can we please all just accept that all the hair follicle test proved is that hair follicle tests don't work.

Canelo had two tests where clenbuterol was shown to be in his system.

A couple months later a hair follicle test was done. Drug residues are supposed to show up in hair follicle tests up to two years later, but the test failed to show traces of the clenbuterol that was known to be in his system just months before. Ergo the follicle test failed to identify a substance that was known to be in his system - ie the follicle test just showed itself to be unreliable.

These are just plain simple facts, either the follicle test was unreliable, or the two VADA tests were. Can't have it both ways.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

well shit...load PAC up like a mfr then...give him that IV treatment that Floyd used

[D4thincarnation]

We can’t be sure about Manny. With Floyd he reached a point where all his fights had testing. Manny just recently had a fight where there was none.

Whatever happened before advanced PED testing became a regular occurrence is a different subject for another thread.

As for this fight, if there is no USADA Or Vada testing, we can’t be sure either guy is clean. That is a problem we need to discuss as opposed to history.

Nothing to do with we, this is your opinion.

If there is no USADA Or Vada testing for the fight then I can’t be sure the fighters are clean

Are you now saying before Mosley vs Mayweather all fighters without VADA or USADA testing you can be sure they never used PEDs.

Not sure how that makes logical sense.


But to avoid confusion, I will ask you straight.

Can you be sure that Floyd Mayweather never used PEDs in fights before he fought Mosley?

[D4thincarnation]

USA has the most advance PEDS available now and that's probably the reason why they have many boxers competing in the sport and the reason why so many american boxers got caught cheating.

All American sport is loaded with drugs, all the way down to the amateur levels.

USADA allows a lot of American athletes to take banned substance and give them TUEs for it.

Always amazes me how all these top elite athletes all have medical conditions that they have to take a banned performance enhancing substance for.

Floyd himself not on got a TUE but got a retroactive TUE. Meaning it took a banned IV in front of a USADA official which was not giving any notice to take by any doctor, an IV that is used to mask PEDs taking after.

Yet Floyd had no serious medical condition that we know of or what he could have had to explain this retro-active TUE.


BALCO managed put pump their athletes full of designer steroids. And USADA didn't find a thing.


We have also seen in boxing that they have destroyed test samples.

And they rarely catch anyone as opposed to VADA.