Boxing fans know who he is. I first saw him a few years ago on HBO. He's fought on HBO and ESPN since then as well, including the PPV vs. Cintron last year...
if U didnt have the internet would U know who ANTONIO MARGARITO is?
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Absolutely.Originally posted by 4CornerMessiahAtleast i'm truthful about things.
And when I read future outlandish posts of yours....I'll simply refer to the fact you admitted you know **** about boxing.
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that punch shattered roys chin and his heart. it proved that he wasnt as great as people thought. oh and there are a lot of bums with titles right now. valuev, baldomir etc. bums get titles through the politics of boxing and then they lose them to guys like roy jones and floyd mayweather because they understand how to manipulate those politics.Originally posted by 4CornerMessiahWell how were the first bums able to win the titles anyway? bum vs. bum fights? Well I beleive Jones got caught with a lucky punch in the 2nd fight and Jones seemed more worried about staying on his feet then trying to get his revenge.Comment
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In my opinion, if Roy didn't have a confidence problem I think he could've pulled out the 3rd fight of their trilogy. Valuev is the most padded boxer i've ever seen, but he's just a puppet to his promoter to make money.Originally posted by blockheadthat punch shattered roys chin and his heart. it proved that he wasnt as great as people thought. oh and there are a lot of bums with titles right now. valuev, baldomir etc. bums get titles through the politics of boxing and then they lose them to guys like roy jones and floyd mayweather because they understand how to manipulate those politics.Comment
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You can be critical of Floyd if you want to, but his resume reads like a murderer's row compared to RJJ. The guys RJJ won titles off of do not compare to the modest careers of Judah and Gatti. I see Judah and Gatti as good contenders... they both have some skill but not enough to be great champs. Also, RJJ was never went through the tests that Floyd went through at 130/135. You said it yourself his 2 toughest fights Hopkins and Toney were tainted (Toney out of shape; Hopkins too young).Originally posted by blockheadthat punch shattered roys chin and his heart. it proved that he wasnt as great as people thought. oh and there are a lot of bums with titles right now. valuev, baldomir etc. bums get titles through the politics of boxing and then they lose them to guys like roy jones and floyd mayweather because they understand how to manipulate those politics.Comment
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hopkins was fighting longer then roy when they fought and was scared to fight the second time because he didnt want to move up in weightOriginally posted by amagninYou can be critical of Floyd if you want to, but his resume reads like a murderer's row compared to RJJ. The guys RJJ won titles off of do not compare to the modest careers of Judah and Gatti. I see Judah and Gatti as good contenders... they both have some skill but not enough to be great champs. Also, RJJ was never went through the tests that Floyd went through at 130/135. You said it yourself his 2 toughest fights Hopkins and Toney were tainted (Toney out of shape; Hopkins too young).Comment
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What I really don't get by people making the reason why Hopkins was possibly too inexperienced and too young for the fight, I mean if you want to get technical about it Roy had one fight less than Hopkins. (Hopkins 22 wins at the time.)Originally posted by amagninYou can be critical of Floyd if you want to, but his resume reads like a murderer's row compared to RJJ. The guys RJJ won titles off of do not compare to the modest careers of Judah and Gatti. I see Judah and Gatti as good contenders... they both have some skill but not enough to be great champs. Also, RJJ was never went through the tests that Floyd went through at 130/135. You said it yourself his 2 toughest fights Hopkins and Toney were tainted (Toney out of shape; Hopkins too young).Comment
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I'm pretty sure the Cintron fight was on Friday Night Fights with good old Teddy AtlasOriginally posted by neils7147933Boxing fans know who he is. I first saw him a few years ago on HBO. He's fought on HBO and ESPN since then as well, including the PPV vs. Cintron last year...
Tony has only headlined one PPV card and that was his last fight versus Gomez.Last edited by deliveryman; 07-17-2006, 05:25 PM.Comment
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No doubt that Hopkins had more professional fights, but realistically, who was the more groomed fighter? The guy who had swept through the Olympics and amateur ranks or the guy who started boxing after he was relesaed from prison. I actually am not insulting RJJ more than protecting Floyd. You can say whatever you want about these two but there is no denying that they are two of our generations most talented boxers. Both can be accused of not making the most exciting fights for the fans, but that shouldn't detract from commending them on great skill.Originally posted by 4CornerMessiahWhat I really don't get by people making the reason why Hopkins was possibly too inexperienced and too young for the fight, I mean if you want to get technical about it Roy had one fight less than Hopkins. (Hopkins 22 wins at the time.)Comment
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You are both right,Originally posted by deliverymanI'm pretty sure the Cintron fight was on Friday Night Fights with good old Teddy Atlas.
Tony has only headlined one PPV card and that was his last fight versus Gomez.
It was ESPN PPV.
Their first and last PPV.
I think Brock and McCline fight were on that card too.Comment
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