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    #41
    Originally posted by MDPopescu
    ... How do you make a "cross-platform big fight" between DAZN and Showtime?...
    Make DAZN cost the same as the PPV the month of the fight for new subs.

    Or just make it a stand alone special DAZN product at the same price of the PPV.

    I doubt thats the way it'll go anyway just cuz historically its only happened twice that I'm aware of but there is ALWAYS a way to come up with some middle ground/workaround.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
      I disagree. I think Wilder vs Joshua is more likely to happen before Bud vs Spence. And thats for the simple fact that money makes finding solutions to problems more likely. And there is just a ton more money up for grabs for people if Wilder vs Joshua happens then there is if Bud vs Spence happens.
      Crawford vs Spence can be made as a joint ESPN-Showtime PPV... While Joshua vs Wilder can't...

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        #43
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        Make DAZN cost the same as the PPV the month of the fight for new subs.

        Or just make it a stand alone special DAZN product at the same price of the PPV.

        I doubt thats the way it'll go anyway just cuz historically its only happened twice that I'm aware of but there is ALWAYS a way to come up with some middle ground/workaround.
        The DAZN product addresses many sports, as you know... opening new subscription "sub-categories" within the service???... Well, meh...

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          #44
          Originally posted by MDPopescu
          The DAZN product addresses many sports, as you know... opening new subscription "sub-categories" within the service???... Well, meh...
          They just altered their pricing cuz of the churn rate with Canelo. Why couldn't they alter things again for a big HW fight?

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            #45
            Originally posted by MDPopescu
            Crawford vs Spence can be made as a joint ESPN-Showtime PPV... While Joshua vs Wilder can't...
            I don't think either of those fights will be joint PPVs in the first place so I don't see that as much of a problem with making those fights.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              They just altered their pricing cuz of the churn rate with Canelo. Why couldn't they alter things again for a big HW fight?
              Are you kidding me?... the moment DAZN makes "one fight payment at $70-100" they are out of business for good...

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                #47
                Originally posted by MDPopescu
                Crawford vs Spence can be made as a joint ESPN-Showtime PPV... While Joshua vs Wilder can't...
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                I don't think either of those fights will be joint PPVs in the first place so I don't see that as much of a problem with making those fights.
                I see what you mean... You rather think that the "promoting platforms" should cover all the required costs, only in order to make those fights done for us, the fans of boxing... don't you forget that those "promoting platforms" are engaged in a wild competition for supremacy?...

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by MDPopescu
                  Are you kidding me?... the moment DAZN makes "one fight payment at $70-100" they are out of business for good...
                  No they aren't. If its a one time thing people will complain like they complain 80% of the time when things are going good already.

                  But we are going down a whole other rabbit hole now.

                  You asked how does Showtime & DAZN do a joint event & I gave you two examples. Probably are more examples that more thoughtful or smarter cats here could come up with. My point is its doable its just how you go about doing it.

                  But again I don't see it being a joint deal anyway. DAZN will sign Wilder for a fight or several fights or Joshua will get an opt out of his DAZN situation for a fight to go to PPV.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by MDPopescu
                    I see what you mean... You rather think that the "promoting platforms" should cover all the required costs, only in order to make those fights done for us, the fans of boxing... don't you forget that those "promoting platforms" are engaged in a wild competition for supremacy?...
                    No I just think sometimes you gotta take an L or work with others to pursue your greater goal.

                    And I think all sides of these 4 boxers believe in their guy enough that if the right deal gets presented a fight can easily get made on any platform that makes the right deal.

                    Honestly the hardest part of this equation is probably Bud cuz Arum sucks at working with others.

                    Eddie works with others & Joshua is on a fight by fight deal from my understanding.

                    Haymon works with others & Wilder & Spence are free agents even if they have alliances with Showtime & Fox.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                      No they aren't. If its a one time thing people will complain like they complain 80% of the time when things are going good already.

                      But we are going down a whole other rabbit hole now.

                      You asked how does Showtime & DAZN do a joint event & I gave you two examples. Probably are more examples that more thoughtful or smarter cats here could come up with. My point is its doable its just how you go about doing it.

                      But again I don't see it being a joint deal anyway. DAZN will sign Wilder for a fight or several fights or Joshua will get an opt out of his DAZN situation for a fight to go to PPV.
                      ... In fact: your solution is that Showtime and/or DAZN should just give up their top "assets" (Wilder, AJ) only in order to give us the fight we want... yes, for sure...

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