No "Sugar" Coating.... Mayweather Jr. is terrified of Margarito

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  • kayjay
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    #41
    Originally posted by Black Jesus
    Because mayweather has never beaten a puncher before...?

    Why is everyone waiting on this like its the only fight there is to take. Why does everyone dwell on this fight, why does everyone care so much, why cant Margarito fight zab judah, or collazo or someone else that actually has a name. How come nobody ever wants to look at the strange politics surrounding this fight. Why do you people think that someone who has stepped in the ring with so many great fighters would be "afriad" of anyone? Why does this fight matter so much to you people. I dont give a **** about this fight, and whats worse is that someone like Margarito who i commended for beating cintron (badly) is someone who i saw as an up and comer, is now someone i see as being badly overrated.

    Im also sick of people talking about how floyd is picking and choosing this person and that person, Zab is an outstanding fighter skillwise, not mentally, but skillwise, he matched mayweather in strength and speed. Yet people just marginalize the win like it didint mean anything, not to mention the fight was signed/hyped long before the baldomir screwup even happened. Had he not came out like a moron, Floyd would be the undisputed welter this very moment.

    This is getting so old, the same arguments, and whats sad is that the majority of people siding with floyd arent even really his fans but people who see things as a 2 sided logical coin. This is all a heap of bull****, why cant you people accept the fight that floyd just doesnt care. Why cant you people understand the realities of this situation, and that the 8million dollars and the dates and all of this is just a ******ed smokescreen.

    Why cant you people understand that margarito has no a-list fighters on his resume, none of those idiots on his record have ever been undisputed anything ever. Nobody on Margarito's record even touches shambra mitchell as far as the calibre of fighter hes faced, that should say something.

    I remember when the bull**** with vivian harris started, Vivian said this and that, talked about how floyd is ducking him, and again floyd just didint give a **** about the guy. He had a chance to prove himself on floyds undercard and got the **** beat out of him. Why cant margarito get himself on his undercard or someone elses LEGIT undercard and just show hes worthy. Instead of me ****ing researching his fights on youtube, why cant i just see his ass on REGULAR tv first, so people cant actually KNOW who he is.

    And what will all you say if he pulls a vivian and gets humiliated by a paul mitchell or judah or whoever? Because there is a chance that could happen. If Margarito actually beats a LEGIT CONTENDER, then ill care about this fight, there will be something to talk about. Because frankly explaining this **** to average fan is like

    "Margarito wants to fight mayweather"
    "Who vs mayweather?"
    "Margarito big puncher, bigger than floyd"
    "Sounds intresting, who has he beat"

    What the **** am i supposed to say? At least mayweather has a gatti, a zab, a corralles, a ****in castillo (2x), a jesus chavez. Floyd has names, Margarito doesnt, floyd just doesnt care and neither do I. Its not ducking, its not being afriad, its just not giving a ****.

    Wanted to give you karma for that, but got the 'spread around' message. What bothers me is that we actually have some fights to talk about (like a welterwieght championship!) and every thread this week has been about Margarito. Where is this coming from?

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    • DiegoFuego
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      #42
      Originally posted by Bonafide
      Found this article. Little bit long but but a good one. Oh by the way I totally agree with it 100%. Just more excuses from Floyd.




      Does Floyd Mayweather Jr give a rat's ass about the Fans? Just who are the fans anyway? The Fans are the ones who make boxing possible. Without their voice and appreciation for the sport...one can assume the Sport of Boxing would have been banned years ago by Politicians and the rest of the General public who could care less about a savage sport we call a "science."

      For pretty much months now fans have been clamoring for Mayweather to put the Fan's money where his mouth is and fight Antonio Margarito. Of course many believe Mayweather Jr is in fear of Margarito, and watching Mayweather come up with reasons not to face Margarito for a whopping 8 million dollars, solidifies to many fans that Mayweather is
      in fact terrified of Margarito.

      If Margarito was an easy challenge and Mayweather was sure of the outcome, he'd go on and take the money and run.

      Quoted in the Las Vegas Sun, Mayweather had this to say about Margarito: "Look at Antonio Margarito, how can you possibly sell a pay-per-view with a guy like this?

      First of all, someone needs to tell Mayweather at this point its not about the PPV numbers, and Mayweather does not need to worry his pretty little head about who is going to buy...because the 8 million is already on the line. Second, the more Mayweather kicks and screams that Margarito is not worth an 8 million dollar challenge, the more and more fans will come to the conclusion that Mayweather is nothing more than a "FRAUD." Mayweather's name outside of the Sport of Boxing is NO Bigger than Margarito's. In fact outside the world of Boxing, I am willing to bet more Mexican American's know Margarito than the African American population knows who Mayweather is. Outside of Boxing, Mayweather is unknown.

      More pathetic lines from a scared man...Mayweather quoted by the LV Sun said: "Antonio Margarito's got four losses on his record to journeymen. He's got one world title, he fights straight up and down, no special effects, and you talk about wanting to get in there with a guy like me? I've got way too much for him. Get some more world titles under your belt, get some much more known opponents, then pick up the phone."

      Never mind the 8 million on the line, never mind the fact that Mayweather looked less than Pound forPound when he fought the newest Journey man in Zab Judah. Zab's loss to Carlos Bladomir meant nothing to Mayweather and in return Maywether vs. Judah meant nothing to the fans. Mayweather's stock plummeted when he took on the extremely worthless Judah. At the point Judah lost to Bladomir, he became levels below Margarito. You can not say Margarito is not worthy but still go ahead with the fresh loser in Judah. Margarito will raise Mayweather's stock...Judah has lowered it.

      Now it seems Mayweather is trying hard to save face and possibly his ailing career by wanting to ignore Margarito and fight "Sugar" Shane Mosley. It won't work.

      Mayweather needs to listen to the fans, and read what the most important writers in the industry are saying about him. If Mayweather wants to read "nutt-hugging" articles about his pathetic career, and talk to only small worthless websites that throw roses and kisses his way...then his popularity will suffer. It is suffering today, and eventually at this rate it won't take long until fans go elsewhere to pop down their money and support.

      Mayweather needs to stop making excuses why he is not fighting Margarito. Just admit to fans he is terrified of Margarito. A true Pound for Pound King would not turn down popular demand and make excuses why he isn't fighting Margarito for 8 million. After all, Mayweather is not in a place in his career where he can outright say he is more deserving than any other fighter.

      For me and judging by message boards and what others are writing, Mayweather is terrified of Margarito. By wanting "Sugar" Shane over Margarito, Mayweather can "Sugar" coat his problems all he wants.... but at the end of the day, Fans will not forget, and the name of "FRAUD" will stick.
      bull-****ing-****

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      • restless_438
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        #43
        to Quote Black Jesus

        This is getting so old, the same arguments, and whats sad is that the majority of people siding with floyd arent even really his fans but people who see things as a 2 sided logical coin. This is all a heap of bull****, why cant you people accept the fight that floyd just doesnt care. Why cant you people understand the realities of this situation, and that the 8million dollars and the dates and all of this is just a ******ed smokescreen.

        What are you saying here, the 8 million dollar offer was fake?

        Why cant you people understand that margarito has no a-list fighters on his resume, none of those idiots on his record have ever been undisputed anything ever. Nobody on Margarito's record even touches shambra mitchell as far as the calibre of fighter hes faced, that should say something.

        How many of Mayweather's last 5-10 opponents have been "a-list"? I count like ONE, Castillo, the rest are b's and c's.. maybe worse

        I remember when the bull**** with vivian harris started, Vivian said this and that, talked about how floyd is ducking him, and again floyd just didint give a **** about the guy. He had a chance to prove himself on floyds undercard and got the **** beat out of him. Why cant margarito get himself on his undercard or someone elses LEGIT undercard and just show hes worthy. Instead of me ****ing researching his fights on youtube, why cant i just see his ass on REGULAR tv first, so people cant actually KNOW who he is.

        I don't know if you know this, but Margarito has repeated many times here recently that he's done with Mayweather and is moving on.

        What the **** am i supposed to say? At least mayweather has a gatti, a zab, a corralles, a ****in castillo (2x), a jesus chavez. Floyd has names, Margarito doesnt, floyd just doesnt care and neither do I. Its not ducking, its not being afriad, its just not giving a ****.

        My complaint at this point isn't that he's not fighting Margarito, it's that he is rumored to be fighting Spinks instead, which when you step back and honestly look at the situation, is absolutely ridiculous when you look at Cory Spinks at this point, screw the past and who he's fought 2 years ago, the fact is NOW he's a beaten fighter (by Zab Judah no less) and people know he didn't have that "top level contention" look when he fought Karmazin (just look at those last two rounds), and this is the guy the supposed #1 P4P fighter in boxing wants?? give me a break..
        Last edited by restless_438; 07-20-2006, 01:04 PM.

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        • alliberg26
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          #44
          Margarito makes no excuses ..he will fight anyone and will never cherry pick his opponents...gayweather will be like barry bonds in history...a great fighter with an asterick(*)...so history will always know gayweather as a pretender...

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          • Newportz
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            #45
            You really have to give Arum credit..

            He has completly sold the idea that Margarito is some type of legitimate threat to Mayweather..

            ..and in doing so, has left the idea of Mayweather fighting ANY other fighter as a complete disgrace to Mayweather career...

            Marvelous job..

            Arum has sold fans their own ideas of a fighters credability.

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            • cortdawg25
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              #46
              Originally posted by Newportz
              You really have to give Arum credit..

              He has completly sold the idea that Margarito is some type of legitimate threat to Mayweather..

              ..and in doing so, has left the idea of Mayweather fighting ANY other fighter as a complete disgrace to Mayweather career...

              Marvelous job..

              Arum has sold fans their own ideas of a fighters credability.

              thats because these so called fans are drones and followers, they cant think for themselves and look and see who is great, they have to be told, Mind controlled Zombies

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              • Easy-E
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                #47
                Originally posted by alliberg26
                Margarito makes no excuses ..he will fight anyone and will never cherry pick his opponents...gayweather will be like barry bonds in history...a great fighter with an asterick(*)...so history will always know gayweather as a pretender...
                Arum just stated that he has no intrest in making a Winky Wright fight.
                Wright called Tony out with no response.
                Williams called Tony out with no response.
                Quintiana called Tony out with no response.
                Judah called Tony out with no response.
                Yeah he'll fight anybody

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                • amagnin
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by PBF34
                  Arum just stated that he has no intrest in making a Winky Wright fight.
                  Wright called Tony out with no response.
                  Williams called Tony out with no response.
                  Quintiana called Tony out with no response.
                  Judah called Tony out with no response.
                  Yeah he'll fight anybody
                  Its funny how everybody loves to hate Floyd but refuses to acknowledge how basically everybody in the game does the same things with a free pass.

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                  • adrsan84
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by PBF34
                    Arum just stated that he has no intrest in making a Winky Wright fight.
                    Wright called Tony out with no response.
                    Williams called Tony out with no response.
                    Quintiana called Tony out with no response.
                    Judah called Tony out with no response.
                    Yeah he'll fight anybody
                    arum stated that, not margarito. they offered the money for his services meaning arum would be out of the loop when the fight was made and would not profit at all from a fight which would deprive him of a pay day, maybe his lastr with margarito.

                    a williams win would do nothing for him, about as much as the cintron win, but they stated they were interested.

                    quintana was their second option behind floyd, although it will probably be cintron 2 if he beats him down.

                    they are actually in talks with judah, to make that fight so it might happen.

                    margarito will not avoid these fighters, arum is making the moves unlike floyd who has control. but at the same time he wants the biggest fight he can get.

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                    • SalvaDominicano
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by PBF34
                      Arum just stated that he has no intrest in making a Winky Wright fight.
                      Wright called Tony out with no response.
                      Williams called Tony out with no response.
                      Quintiana called Tony out with no response.
                      Judah called Tony out with no response.
                      Yeah he'll fight anybody

                      i want proof.

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