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PBC up for sale & Showtime about to pull the plug on boxing.

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    Showtime just layed out $60m+ per year for the next 4 years (with Fox Sports also laying out about the same money, for 4 years as well), and is betting on Deontay Wilder being their cornerstone for PPV (in a similar way to what Errol Spence Jr seems set to be for FOX if he keeps winning) with fighters like Gervonta Davis and others featuring with him.

    Why a Brit decided to post such nonsense and run with it is beyond me.

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    • https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/blo...nts/e/60903164




      Another good podcast breaking down the potential purchase of the PBC from Endeavor. I want to say it is around the 30 minute mark but I could be wrong, may be a bit before that.

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      • Originally posted by j.razor View Post
        Wait, doesn't Sho have a streaming service?
        I'm not sure. My point is that it is likely that we will have a dominant platform, like Netflix is.

        It might not be DAZN but its doing well already to be drawing names to it.

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        • Originally posted by OnlytheTruth View Post
          I'm not sure. My point is that it is likely that we will have a dominant platform, like Netflix is.

          It might not be DAZN but its doing well already to be drawing names to it.
          Honestly, that could be exactly what Endeavor is trying to do. They may be trying to buy every promotional company and creating one league like the UFC. That's what the boys on the Show Me Money podcast talked about. Interesting times.

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          • Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
            a lot of smoke now. Here is video by Tstreet saying guys like Arum already know it's a done deal. Says that investors upset because the money itsn't adding up and they already lost so much. Says Haymon is giving out big money to his top guys to keep them there and happy and not bolt but it's just a spit shine because he is trying to sell PBC.

            None of this makes sense, lol.

            The grunt work was done, Haymon proved the market, Haymon now apparently has north of $125m per year to deliver at least 34 fight cards per year (10 FOX, 12 FS1, and at least 12 Showtime; can add 4-6 PPVs across both broadcasters), for two broadcasters with combat sports being core to their strategies (Showtime/CBS making the aggressive bet since the Floyd deal, and FOX/FS1 with the departure of the UFC), yet you earnestly believe that "investors" are looking to bolt now (or whatever the guy who wrote that post said)?

            You till the land, sow the seeds, water and nurture the ground, watch the tree saplings come through, nurture the saplings, watch things start to flower, get to that first harvest... and then sell the whole orchard because the first real fruits came in year 5 instead of year 4? Tf?

            However long it takes, let's say an apple tree, to fruit, it'll produce for you for the next 15-20 years after that, if not longer.

            Haymon and his investors are sitting on an orchard; a growing rights fee, budding PPV fighters in Wilder and Spence to start with (for now), and the deepest prospects roster in all of the sport.

            Bailing now makes no sense, especially after gritting through the trial phase and finding the success that was believed to be possible.

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            • Originally posted by Bob Haymon View Post
              CBS has a new CEO. If Showtime is losing subscribers, boxing is going to be one of the first things they're going to dump from their original programming lineup. Boxing is way behind in ratings compared to Showtime's flagship programs like Homeland, Shameless, Ray Donovan, and Billions. The only shows doing worse ratings than PBC are much cheaper to produce than the ~$60 million a year they're spending on boxing. For comparison $60 million was Game of Thrones' season 1 budget and they were getting 3-5x as many viewers.
              Who's this CEO, lol? You guys crack me up with this foolishness, as if boxing isn't significant value add for Showtime, as a direct channel and with their app.

              Showtime/CBS and Fox Sports have access to the broadest and deepest pool of talent in the sport. Showtime isn't desperate in their search for fights the way that HBO was when they were no longer the key-man broadcaster for the sport.

              Don't delude yourself

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              • Yeah, don't buy that the PBC has already been sold like the dude in bigdunny's post alluded to. John Nash mentions that talks have been going on for a few months now and he has heard from some folks in the know that they are confident the sale happens, but they still have things to work on.

                Endeavor has in the past supposedly tried to purchase GB and TR, and then just TR's library. They want to be one of the leaders in combat sports content. If they get the PBC, their end game will be to take it to ESPN+ so they can have all the leverage in future deals for the UFC.

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                • Originally posted by DaNeutral. View Post
                  Dont forget wilder ortiz 2, 3 and 4.
                  LOL....Hey if the others don't want to fight D.Wilder then so be it.

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                  • Originally posted by j.razor View Post
                    The person is who created the sport, duh. The athlete will be gone but there will be another human being doing the sport not the sport doing the human being so get that slave mentality out of your head. We are all bigger than the sport, F the dumb shet. Oh & B-Hop won by more than 1 point, it really wasn't even a close fight.
                    Your post is nonsense you yourself just said "when one is done another will come"Which just makes my point thank you lmao.

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                    • Originally posted by j.razor View Post
                      You one of them lying haters....
                      Yeah paying 10million for a fighter that draws 800k viewers and 2million in tickets just screams great business

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