Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder: Why Not Have Two, Three Fights With Luis Ortiz?

[alexjust]

How about AJ or Whyte just fight him once... after all he is an old man? what’s the risk?

Hearn seems to like old men when they are named Klitschko. That was a fight he wanted to see twice.

The mic is yours again what were you saying? And this time tell the story like you believe it.

Are you high?

[Fire4231]

Are being deliberately ****** or what?

Povetkin doesn't even come into this.

The IBF requested the mandatory (Pulev/Takam) before AJ was even the WBA Champ. They allowed AJ to fight Wlad for the WBA as long as their mando was after. AJ fought the IBF mando and Ortiz was inline to fight as the WBA mando but he got suspended by his own fault and never chose to appeal to get back inline for AJ. I assume you metioned Povetkin becuase he ended up being the mando after AJ's unification with Parker and unification trumps mando if it's signed up.

http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_...hko-retirement

http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_...tive-drug-test

7 mil wasn't a lowball or the reason for the fight not coming off his team have said the promoter messed up what they would have accepted, that's not a myth so you can't debunk it.

If we are talking about the first duck with Pulev, look up the timeline.

- Ortiz was the Mandatory for the winner before the Joshua vs Klit fight (January of 2017)
- Joshua won the fight that spring
- They we’re waiting on Vlad to decide on a rematch, rumors surfaced that he would not take it
- So they reissued the WBA Mandatory to fight Ortiz
- A day later The IBF issued its request that Joshua fight their Mandy Pulev
- Yet by your own ESPN link somehow Hearn is already in talks with Pulev despite knowing the Ortiz Mandatory is the oldest and most ripe
- Although biased media Rafael states that he had the IBF “Belt,” longer. However the Mandatory for the WBA was much older. Jan 11th, 2017
- Where Dan does tell the truth is in stating that Hearn believed Pulev is a much easier fight and wanted to go that direction.

The smoking gun is the timing of the IBF mandatory is a day after the WBA threats and Hearn happened to be already in talks with Pulevs people. That says to me the IBF Mandatory was more than likely arranged as a defense against the WBA’s longer held mandatory. You guys are silly to believe in Hearn.

There is new information released on the 7 million offer and if you want to continue to ignore that on you. At least you do some research. You just trust the wrong sources.

[Jax teller]

If we are talking about the first duck with Pulev, look up the timeline.

- Ortiz was the Mandatory for the winner before the Joshua vs Klit fight (January of 2017)
- Joshua won the fight that spring
- They we’re waiting on Vlad to decide on a rematch, rumors surfaced that he would not take it
- So they reissued the WBA Mandatory to fight Ortiz
- A day later The IBF issued its request that Joshua fight their Mandy Pulev
- Yet by your own ESPN link somehow Hearn is already in talks with Pulev despite knowing the Ortiz Mandatory is the oldest and most ripe
- Although biased media Rafael states that he had the IBF “Belt,” longer. However the Mandatory for the WBA was much older. Jan 11th, 2017
- Where Dan does tell the truth is in stating that Hearn believed Pulev is a much easier fight and wanted to go that direction.

The smoking gun is the timing of the IBF mandatory is a day after the WBA threats and Hearn happened to be already in talks with Pulevs people. That says to me the IBF Mandatory was more than likely arranged as a defense against the WBA’s longer held mandatory. You guys are silly to believe in Hearn.

There is new information released on the 7 million offer and if you want to continue to ignore that on you. At least you do some research. You just trust the wrong sources.

What's the new information then because if it's Ortiz's team saying they didn't get sent a contract after calling Hearn a joke and declining his offer then it ain't washing you don't slag someone off and expect them to sort you out two weeks later and 5 weeks off the fight when other fighters have taken it more seriously and are already further down the line with sealing the deal.

Also AJ wasn't due WBA Mando until he defeated Wlad and was the WBA champ the IBF had already stated if Klitschko doesn't happen he needed to fight Pulev. The IBF don't mess about when it comes to mandatories.

At the end of the day all Ortiz had to do was fill in a form correctly wait and he could have got Povetkins shot but he failed the first test didn't appeal and CHOSE to fight Wilder instead of waiting to fight AJ 6 months later for more titles and more money.

[Fire4231]

Are you high?

Yep hi on life, the creator and superior intellect why do you ask man fan?

[Fire4231]

What's the new information then because if it's Ortiz's team saying they didn't get sent a contract after calling Hearn a joke and declining his offer then it ain't washing you don't slag someone off and expect them to sort you out two weeks later and 5 weeks off the fight when other fighters have taken it more seriously and are already further down the line with sealing the deal.

Also AJ wasn't due WBA Mando until he defeated Wlad and was the WBA champ the IBF had already stated if Klitschko doesn't happen he needed to fight Pulev. The IBF don't mess about when it comes to mandatories.

At the end of the day all Ortiz had to do was fill in a form correctly wait and he could have got Povetkins shot but he failed the first test didn't appeal and CHOSE to fight Wilder instead of waiting to fight AJ 6 months later for more titles and more money.

Bro you do the research, I have done little to corner the market on WiFi.

If you are looking for an objective truth, that should have been the first reaction. You have read Hearns side. Get back to me when you have read their side of the story. The truth is somewhere in between.

[Sid-Knee]

Wow Whyte knocking out Wilder. I will come find this comment.

I wouldn't bother if I were you. You'll be waiting very long. Wilder needs time to find his balls first. It's very stressful for him. Remember, be patient. Call again in another 2 years or so. Then Wilder will come bursting out like Super man.... And get knocked smooth out with a left hook because his defence is non existent.

[Sid-Knee]

You are a complete ****** and in full defense mode even when it’s nothing to defend its facts wilder agreed to fight Whyte for 7million as long as aj was guaranteed next and Hearn said no it don’t work like that, Helenious had Whyte looking dumb until gassing out, without that second knockdown that wasn’t a knockdown in Parker fight Whyte would of lost not to mention the ref saving him in 12th round when he was holding on for dare life.... you’ve quoted everyone in this thread in full defense mode like you getting paid by Hearn just skipping over basic facts

Defence mode? What, because i'm talking facts and you morons are not? Don't project. You Americans always project. It's boring.

Wilder wanted it in the same contract. get your facts right. And that wasn't the 7 Mill offer. that came later. you're getting your times all mixed up.

I asked you to give me the rounds Helenious "Dominated"? Is that too hard for you? It seems it is for you lot. Talk shlt but back nothing up. A lot like your coward fighters actually.

The ref saved Whyte when he grabbed hold of Parker when he was hurt? No he didn't. It's accepted for fighters to tie up when they're hurt. Just look at Holyfield in the second Ruiz fight. You don't start swinging with them while you're buzzed. I'm sure you would though considering you're proper tough and all. But fighters can't be as tough as you would be in the same circumstances.

What facts am I skipping over? You mean like your "Facts"? Yeah, they're not facts. It's called bullshlt. Just like when normal people see you weirdo fans all over forums and YT comments. We see it's severe mental illness of the highest order.

Now why don't you get back to posting things like "AJ and Hearn lowballed Ortiz" or "AJ scared because he didn't send a contract even though one wasn't needed due to the offers being turned down".

F3cking madness.

[Sid-Knee]

Wlad and Povetkin were old. Whyte is mediocre and Parker is a stiff! Those are his marquee wins? Joke!

They are good wins no matter how you want to smear them. Wilder's resume doesn't come close. But don't tell me, Ortiz isn't old or anything nor does he need medication for high blood pressure where he nearly failed the medical before his fight with Wilder.

You really should see someone for your clear mental health problems. Seems many Americans on forums and YT comments have the same problem. So trust me, you're really creepy people detached from reality in a very scary way.

[Alan Smithee]

They are good wins no matter how you want to smear them. Wilder's resume doesn't come close. But don't tell me, Ortiz isn't old or anything nor does he need medication for high blood pressure where he nearly failed the medical before his fight with Wilder.

You really should see someone for your clear mental health problems. Seems many Americans on forums and YT comments have the same problem. So trust me, you're really creepy people detached from reality in a very scary way.

Typical comments from Sid "always on his knees"! Wilder will crush Frank Bruno's protege! Easy work!

[Sid-Knee]

It's pretty standard in a lot of states, nothing special.

Then why didn't Ortiz get the same treatment when he was dropped and hurt? Huh? Why wasn't he allowed extra time to recover by getting checked out after the minute corner time?