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  • TheBigLug
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    #11
    You probably need to fight a near flawless fight to beat him and also have a style to do it. if you don't have great movement, then you have to catch him before he catches you and knock him out, which nobody has been able to do in over 40 fights, so it's not that simple.

    I think Fury is the only guy that really beats him. He already did and that wasn't even a fully fit and refined Fury. He will be quicker, sharper and stronger now he isn't coming off a 100lbs loss fat camp. I'm confident Fury can do the same again and not make the mistakes and get caught. Plus we know he's tough, he didn't just get up and survive, he took over the rest of the round.

    As for anybody else, i just don't see them beating him unless it's a punchers chance. All the other big upright static targets like AJ, Whyte etc are just sitting ducks for the right hand. Even if they have a punchers chance, they're going to be incredibly cautious to let the shots fly anyway.

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      #12
      He punches hard but has he got any iron shunned fighters in resume? An Oliver mcall, Ray mercer, vitali klitscho.type on resume?

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        #13
        Originally posted by lparm
        Tyson Fury beats him no matter what
        Fury was lucky to get up and said God had to lift him from the canvas. IDK why some people are so insecure about the fact that Wilder has the power to drop anyone but it's just a proven fact. You gotta deal with reality at some point. Fury wanted nothing to do with a rematch so I have to believe Wilder's power put some fear into him.

        I still think AJ beats Wilder but the fact remains that none of the HWs right now are great and even Wilder stands a chance at beating any of them.

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          #14
          Originally posted by hugh grant
          He punches hard but has he got any iron shunned fighters in resume? An Oliver mcall, Ray mercer, vitali klitscho.type on resume?
          It's hard to say because maybe someone like Ortiz might have had their kind of chin but how would we know?. We assume he didn't have a chin like theirs because Wilder stopped him, but what's to say his punches wouldn't have done the same to them? and then we also wouldn't put them in that bracket.

          We'll never know how good Ortiz's chin was because he ducked the likes of AJ, maybe that could've been a good test of his chin.

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            #15
            Fury is the only man in the division with the skills to beat Wilder.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Redd Foxx
              Fury was lucky to get up and said God had to lift him from the canvas.
              That's nonsense though. if he was lucky, why did he win the rest of the round?

              I'm not entirely sure he was as hurt as they say but they dramatise it. It was a really heavy knockdown no doubt, but Fury contradicts what he said because he said he was thinking clearly and waited an extra 2 seconds so that his legs would be steady when he got up and wouldn't get waved off if he wasn't steady.

              Would anybody be thinking so logically if they were almost gone?

              So considering he said that and did take over the rest of the round, i have to say that i think Fury wasn't as badly hurt as it seemed and definitely wasn't "lucky".

              I agree with everything else though. Wilder can knock out any heavyweight and i'd favour him over everyone except Fury, and even then i know Wilder can flatten him.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                Fury was lucky to get up and said God had to lift him from the canvas. IDK why some people are so insecure about the fact that Wilder has the power to drop anyone but it's just a proven fact. You gotta deal with reality at some point. Fury wanted nothing to do with a rematch so I have to believe Wilder's power put some fear into him.

                I still think AJ beats Wilder but the fact remains that none of the HWs right now are great and even Wilder stands a chance at beating any of them.
                thanks god that Fury and Wilder went to a draw.

                all he's got is power. Butterbean had less power, but better skills. Wilder is lucky there is no one with skills he has to face , besides rematching Fury and facing Joshua. some one like Tyson, Vitaly, Foreman would place this guy where he belongs to, leaving him quiet just like Russel Jr does, after his yearly fight, for next 11 months. he can get 10 ml of views on youtube, whatever it takes, to casuals. This dude has nothing that entertains me. as snap sang - i got the power.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by TheBigLug
                  That's nonsense though. if he was lucky, why did he win the rest of the round?

                  I'm not entirely sure he was as hurt as they say but they dramatise it. It was a really heavy knockdown no doubt, but Fury contradicts what he said because he said he was thinking clearly and waited an extra 2 seconds so that his legs would be steady when he got up and wouldn't get waved off if he wasn't steady.

                  Would anybody be thinking so logically if they were almost gone?

                  So considering he said that and did take over the rest of the round, i have to say that i think Fury wasn't as badly hurt as it seemed and definitely wasn't "lucky".

                  I agree with everything else though. Wilder can knock out any heavyweight and i'd favour him over everyone except Fury, and even then i know Wilder can flatten him.
                  That's part of boxing. Experienced fighters know to wait the max time before standing. Fury didn't have to figure that out on the spot. He's been on the canvas before, he knows how it goes.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Ogecca MaMa
                    thanks god that Fury and Wilder went to a draw.

                    all he's got is power. Butterbean had less power, but better skills. Wilder is lucky there is no one with skills he has to face , besides rematching Fury and facing Joshua. some one like Tyson, Vitaly, Foreman would place this guy where he belongs to, leaving him quiet just like Russel Jr does, after his yearly fight, for next 11 months. he can get 10 ml of views on youtube, whatever it takes, to casuals. This dude has nothing that entertains me. as snap sang - i got the power.
                    Does nothing to entertain you but you watch all his fights and talk about him afterward.... *yawn*
                    I'm not even a fan of his but people who pretend he isn't entertaining and that KOs like that don't represent the best of boxing are liars and fanboys who are too uptight to just enjoy the sport.

                    I'm thankful that we have all types in the sport. It's what makes boxing great.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                      Does nothing to entertain you but you watch all his fights and talk about him afterward.... *yawn*
                      I'm not even a fan of his but people who pretend he isn't entertaining and that KOs like that don't represent the best of boxing are liars and fanboys who are too uptight to just enjoy the sport.

                      I'm thankful that we have all types in the sport. It's what makes boxing great.
                      the **** you are on? I havent seen his single fight red fox. reading news is enough to me.

                      few rounds with Fury, is all I've seen. so quit with that bull that you have to say please

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