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  • Oldskoolg
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    #21
    Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
    Race and nationality play heavy in the criticisms that are levied in boxing as well as fandom. When someone brings that up it doesn't mean that all critics or fans are fueled by race or nationality. It shouldn't be ignored though.
    Ake-dawg, why is it only an issue when you black Americans support your own but it’s not an issue when Mexicans or British support their own?

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    • aboutfkntime
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      #22
      Originally posted by hitking
      Just curious. Why is it that boxing fans will embrace crude, low skill level guys like Antonio Margarito or Ricardo Mayorga? Who even without great traditional boxing skills reach the top of the game. But a black fighter like Wilder that does the same is always hounded about his lack of traditional skills.


      Gatti, Ward.....

      even guys like Lemieux, Matthyse, Rios, Salido..... guys who win through toughness and heart

      Butterbean LMAO

      I do see it.....

      I don't know about from the media, but certainly from lesser fans

      and I'm not black

      I like technicians, always have.....

      I don't give a fk about punchers..... seen a million punchers man, and seen 99.9% of them beaten by better skilled fighters..... I am only impressed with a puncher when he achieves at the HIGHEST level, because punchers can easily be nullified ..... which is why I never got fooled by Golovkin, especially when I noticed early that he was allergic to movers

      look how people talked about that kid Munguia

      look what happened

      I kinda like Wilder now, as a spectacle..... he is more than just a puncher, he has a ATG right hand..... against any era, and any opponent..... but what sets him apart from even GOOD punchers is that uncanny ability to land betsy, despite having a limited game and an underdeveloped style..... even against big skilled technicians like 6'9 Fury

      the thing is this..... the odds are different in a Wilder fight

      to a certain extent - not all the way - just to a larger extent..... Wilder's style renders a lot of variables obsolete..... opponent strengths, experience, size, style, technique, resume, Wilder badly outboxed, blah, blah.....

      what is far more relevant is..... will Wilder land betsy at some point during the fight?..... because yea, if that happens, all that other shlt aint gonna matter.....

      Q. how effective is Wilder at landing that punch at some point in the fight..... even on a huge technically skilled opponent?

      A. pretty damn effective

      what happened in the Fury fight..... is EXACTLY why Joshua and Hearn behaved like such morons by killing the fight when they had Wilder on the hook for $15m

      EXACTLY !!

      they were 100% justified for embarrassing themselves last year

      the fans..... ?

      no idea why they embarrass themselves daily..... both by under-appreciating certain fighters/styles..... and by worshiping certain fighters to such a ridiculous extent that they blind themselves to lies so they can see what they want to see

      I truly believe boxing has the worst/lowest fans of any sport

      edit:

      oh, btw..... Fury is my guy, I thought he beat Wilder

      but yea, I like Wilder now..... he is must see TV, the division is much better off with him than without him..... he is a wildcard, and a damn good one (no pun)
      Last edited by aboutfkntime; 05-18-2019, 09:41 PM.

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        #23
        Fury said that too.. an still got caught twice and was almost dead in the 12rd.. lol. U fools are funny.. what will Wilder be without the right hand.. what would any fighter be without their dominant hand? Smh..

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        • aboutfkntime
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          #24
          put it this way.....

          what is likely going to be Dominic Breazeale's fate later on today ?

          that boy gonna get stretched out like a used condom

          anyone know the betting odds for Breazeale seeing the final bell ?

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          • Ake-Dawg
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            #25
            Originally posted by Oldskoolg
            Ake-dawg, why is it only an issue when you black Americans support your own but it’s not an issue when Mexicans or British support their own?
            People need to feel like the blacks are controlled, either by some form of promotion or manager or by them as fans.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Nomadic
              If all he has is a right hand, what does that say about the one's who got caught with it?
              Fair point. I don´t even think it´s the power that makes DWs right hand special, it´s the speed and awkwardness, and that´s why he keeps landing with it..

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                #27
                Originally posted by Slowhand
                Fair point. I don´t even think it´s the power that makes DWs right hand special, it´s the speed and awkwardness, and that´s why he keeps landing with it..


                yea if he was more textbook he could be less effective

                still, he needs more to his game

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                • Nomadic
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  yea if he was more textbook he could be less effective

                  still, he needs more to his game
                  He does, if he ever face a defensive expert, he's in trouble.

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                  • Nomadic
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                    Gatti, Ward.....

                    even guys like Lemieux, Matthyse, Rios, Salido..... guys who win through toughness and heart

                    Butterbean LMAO

                    I do see it.....

                    I don't know about from the media, but certainly from lesser fans

                    and I'm not black

                    I like technicians, always have.....

                    I don't give a fk about punchers..... seen a million punchers man, and seen 99.9% of them beaten by better skilled fighters..... I am only impressed with a puncher when he achieves at the HIGHEST level, because punchers can easily be nullified ..... which is why I never got fooled by Golovkin, especially when I noticed early that he was allergic to movers

                    look how people talked about that kid Munguia

                    look what happened

                    I kinda like Wilder now, as a spectacle..... he is more than just a puncher, he has a ATG right hand..... against any era, and any opponent..... but what sets him apart from even GOOD punchers is that uncanny ability to land betsy, despite having a limited game and an underdeveloped style..... even against big skilled technicians like 6'9 Fury

                    the thing is this..... the odds are different in a Wilder fight

                    to a certain extent - not all the way - just to a larger extent..... Wilder's style renders a lot of variables obsolete..... opponent strengths, experience, size, style, technique, resume, Wilder badly outboxed, blah, blah.....

                    what is far more relevant is..... will Wilder land betsy at some point during the fight?..... because yea, if that happens, all that other shlt aint gonna matter.....

                    Q. how effective is Wilder at landing that punch at some point in the fight..... even on a huge technically skilled opponent?

                    A. pretty damn effective

                    what happened in the Fury fight..... is EXACTLY why Joshua and Hearn behaved like such morons by killing the fight when they had Wilder on the hook for $15m

                    EXACTLY !!

                    they were 100% justified for embarrassing themselves last year

                    the fans..... ?

                    no idea why they embarrass themselves daily..... both by under-appreciating certain fighters/styles..... and by worshiping certain fighters to such a ridiculous extent that they blind themselves to lies so they can see what they want to see

                    I truly believe boxing has the worst/lowest fans of any sport

                    edit:

                    oh, btw..... Fury is my guy, I thought he beat Wilder

                    but yea, I like Wilder now..... he is must see TV, the division is much better off with him than without him..... he is a wildcard, and a damn good one (no pun)
                    That's always going to be your curse, you keep it fair and honest.

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                    • hitking
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                      #30
                      Putting Wilder’s right hand in perspective. He starched a guy tonight that outweighed him by 33lbs. Which is basically like Lomachencko starching a super middleweight with a single shot. What always seems to get lost on both sides of the Wilder debate is how small he is by today’s heavyweight standards. When guys in the lower weights start moving up. They tend to beat bigger guys with speed and technical ability. And most of these “bigger guys” are only 10-15lbs heavier in terms of natural size. Wilder is giving up 30, 40, 50 pounds to everyone he’s fighting. And he’s usually the inferior boxer and has to win playing the power game. Don’t think people realize how special what he’s doing really is.

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