Remember how lots of people were saying that Floyd was ducking GGG?

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  • hugh grant
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    #11
    Originally posted by mcdonalds
    Floyd is so good that people said he was ducking middleweights
    Not really. People just want FLoyd to have won titles in as many divisions as Henry Armstrong or Pac, or beat guys as big and good as Duran did.
    Pac is so good that Thurman is a cherry pick at 40 years old, with 73 fights under belt and starting at flyweight.

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    • mcdonalds
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      #12
      Originally posted by hugh grant
      Not really. People just want FLoyd to have won titles in as many divisions as Henry Armstrong or Pac, or beat guys as big and good as Duran did.
      Pac is so good that Thurman is a cherry pick at 40 years old, with 73 fights under belt and starting at flyweight.
      Can you really consider pac a 6 division champ when he didn't beat the top guy at 135, 147 and 154?

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        #13
        Originally posted by mcdonalds
        Can you really consider pac a 6 division champ when he didn't beat the top guy at 135, 147 and 154?
        He's a 8 division title holder. How many of the divisions Floyd has titles did he beat to p guy.

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          #14
          Originally posted by HitmanTommy
          People were pushing for the fight, but I wonder if the fight had actually happened, at what weight would it have taken place?

          hmmmm
          Can't really say it was a 'duck'. It is a fight that most boxing fans wanted to see though - and as the A-side in boxing Floyd could have made any fight he wanted. People who fought him made their retirement money that night.

          And if Floyd had gone up to 160 and beaten GGG, or even gone 12 rounds in a close fight, he would have probably eliminated a lot of his 'haters'. Imagine if he had fought him at a neutral site and schooled GGG over 12 rounds - what could anyone say about him then?

          The risk/reward just never lined up for Floyd, and it certainly would have never happened at 160. Probably 154 or even 152 as some on here have pointed out. Floyd was the A side and he played the A side game very well.

          If GGG wasn't completely drained I just think he would always be too big for Floyd though. In a lot of ways GGG is just a much better version of Maidana. And we saw how GGG decided to fight Brook - not box him really but just street fight him.

          I think he would have employed similar tactics against Floyd and would have just been a little too strong and big. GGG's ability to get guys out of there who can't compete with him physically has always been one of his best traits.

          Fun fight to think about though.
          Last edited by Boxing_1013; 05-18-2019, 11:24 AM.

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          • THEFRESHBRAWLER
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            #15
            Originally posted by hugh grant
            He's a 8 division title holder. How many of the divisions Floyd has titles did he beat to p guy.
            Floyd didn’t win any vacant titles like Pacquiao

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              #16
              Originally posted by mcdonalds
              Can you really consider pac a 6 division champ when he didn't beat the top guy at 135, 147 and 154?
              I think once you get into winning a belt in that many divisions, it kind of speaks for itself. I agree that it doesn't necessarily tell the whole story, but winning a belt in 5+ divisions is impressive (especially if you are doing it legit with no scoring controversies etc).

              Always easier for the little guys to do that many divisions, and with so many belts you can definitely cherry pick who you want if you are the A side.

              But to do 5+ belts that's basically at least 20 pounds worth of weight. I agree though that WHO you beat should matter quite a bit when we hype up a multi division champion.

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                #17
                Originally posted by HitmanTommy
                People were pushing for the fight, but I wonder if the fight had actually happened, at what weight would it have taken place?

                hmmmm
                The fight was supposed to be at 154 for Mayweather's two belts that he won from Cotto and Canelo and never defended for over two years . I think GGG would have KOed him no problem. Mayweather's dad said the fight was out of the question and GGG was too big for Floyd. Wise decision.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by mcdongus title fight alds
                  Can you really consider pac a 6 division champ when he didn't beat the top guy at 135, 147 and 154?
                  You just have to be a champion not the best champion. I never recognized Pac as a 154 pound champion because that was a made up bogus title fight at a catch weight. By your standard Mayweather is not a 154 pound champion either because he never beat the best champion at the time which was clearly Lara. In fact Mayweather never fought Lara even when he had two 154 pound belts and Lara had a 154 pound belt. Why not? Mayweather also beat Canelo at a catchweight of 152. Mr perfect man is not perfect.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                    The Floyd Mayweather that fought Canelo, would of beaten Golovkin. 'I even think the Oscar De La Hoya who fought Mayweather, could of really really pushed Golovkin.
                    Only in your dreams. GGG challenged him to defends his 154 pound belts at that weight and Floyd declined. It would have been a big money fight. That Floyd said no thanks tells you he did not think he would win. GGG would slaughter any Oscar.

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                      #20
                      Imagine hating Floyd so much that you're willing to make yourself look and sound like an idiot? Floyd as an old man ducked GGG when at the time, GGG wouldn't even fight a Floyd Mayweather like fighter who was bigger in an Andre Ward, but wanted a smaller Floyd who can't even make MW to fight him. LMAO

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