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  • DaNeutral.
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    #51
    Originally posted by Cool Scant
    Why does it matter how many fights AJ has. If he’s still a prospect then he shouldn’t have cherrypicked the belts.
    Yeah that only works if Joshua is refusing to fight people like you are trying to make out. Wilder turned down the fight, Ortiz turned down the fight and Fury turned down the fight.

    Who is it you want him to face instead?

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    • Cool Scant
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      #52
      Originally posted by DaNeutral.
      Yeah that only works if Joshua is refusing to fight people like you are trying to make out. Wilder turned down the fight, Ortiz turned down the fight and Fury turned down the fight.

      Who is it you want him to face instead?
      AJs been turning down the opportunity to fight wilder from 2016-2018. 2017 AJ said he doesn’t want to fight wilder until 2020 or henry his in the best position to win. 2018 Barry Hearn said the wilder fight shouldn’t happen until 2020 and he doesn’t care if it never happens. Eddie Hearn stayed that AJ can get away with a povetkin fight before wilder and that was before the wba ordered povetkin. Team AJ didn’t want to fight wilder all of these interviews are documented on YouTube.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Cool Scant
        AJs been turning down the opportunity to fight wilder from 2016-2018. 2017 AJ said he doesn’t want to fight wilder until 2020 or henry his in the best position to win. 2018 Barry Hearn said the wilder fight shouldn’t happen until 2020 and he doesn’t care if it never happens. Eddie Hearn stayed that AJ can get away with a povetkin fight before wilder and that was before the wba ordered povetkin. Team AJ didn’t want to fight wilder all of these interviews are documented on YouTube.
        LOL no it ain't, I know exactly the videos you are talking about and you have very much twisted what has been said by them.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Cool Scant
          Klitschko looked good against AJ because AJ isn’t as good as Fury. Fact remains Klitschko was 41 years old and probably over trained.
          That's not what I asked. I asked for you to tell me what Wlad was unable to do against AJ that he was able to do years earlier?

          Wlad did not look like he was over-trained. What gave you that idea? It can happen for some, but clearly not the case with Wlad against AJ. He was right on the money that night surprisingly.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Cool Scant
            Povetkin lost to Klitschko before AJ fought him. Ortiz was undefeated when wilder fought him. Ortiz is a better win that povetkin
            That's because Ortiz didn't fight Wlad. Had he done, he would have lost also. Ortiz has only fought bums his whole career. The one time he stepped up, he lost.

            And you do know Ortiz is older than Povetkin don't you? Povetkin wasn't on tablets either for high blood pressure the way Ortiz was.

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              #56
              Originally posted by DaNeutral.
              LOL no it ain't, I know exactly the videos you are talking about and you have very much twisted what has been said by them.
              I didn’t twist what was said I paraphrased. AJ didn’t want the fight because he doesn’t have a chin. Did you watch boxing June 1st?

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                #57
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                That's because Ortiz didn't fight Wlad. Had he done, he would have lost also. Ortiz has only fought bums his whole career. The one time he stepped up, he lost.

                And you do know Ortiz is older than Povetkin don't you? Povetkin wasn't on tablets either for high blood pressure the way Ortiz was.
                thats like saying AJ wouldn’t have the belt if he fought a in prime Klitschko. You do know that povetkin and Ortiz are both born in 1979. Lying about Ortiz’s age to diminish him as a credible opponent won’t work.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                  That's not what I asked. I asked for you to tell me what Wlad was unable to do against AJ that he was able to do years earlier?

                  Wlad did not look like he was over-trained. What gave you that idea? It can happen for some, but clearly not the case with Wlad against AJ. He was right on the money that night surprisingly.
                  Klitschko was shot his reflexes were diminished that’s why he let AJ off the hook. Did you see what an in prime fighter just did to AJ?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Cool Scant
                    thats like saying AJ wouldn’t have the belt if he fought a in prime Klitschko. You do know that povetkin and Ortiz are both born in 1979. Lying about Ortiz’s age to diminish him as a credible opponent won’t work.
                    But AJ wouldn't have fought Wlad if he was in his prime with so few fights would he?

                    We both know Ortiz is a lot older than he says. Nor is Povetkin on high blood pressure tablets the way Ortiz is. Why do you think he's on them?

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Cool Scant
                      Klitschko was shot his reflexes were diminished that’s why he let AJ off the hook. Did you see what an in prime fighter just did to AJ?
                      Wlad's reflexes were the same as they always were.

                      Wlad never goes for the finish usually, but he did against AJ. What were you watching? He was throwing hooks all over the place. Show me a fight where Wlad threw more shots to finish a fighter?

                      AJ wanted to put on a performance for the fans on his US debut so ******ly went for the finish after dropping Ruiz. But he made the mistake of swinging hooks on the inside with him instead of keeping it at range and got caught by the quicker faster hook as he was throwing his so moved into it making the force of the punch twice as bad. He just never seemed to recover after that.

                      AJ fought and beat two fresh fighters that were better than Ruiz in Parker and Whyte. Parker even has a win over him. Or have you forgotten that?

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