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  • Laligalaliga
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    #31
    Originally posted by Bronx2245
    Meldonium is a vitamin now? How about Ostarine? Povetkin is a serial PED Cheat! I'm amazed you're even attempting to defend him!
    same as Ortiz but he was willing to fight Ortiz because he has health issues.

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    • Laligalaliga
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      #32
      Originally posted by neilt631
      Did Breezy really add his own name to the top five current HWs and not even mention Ortiz? lol He lost credibility points for that.
      Ortiz is a chicken.. hez off rating.
      Has he fought anybody of izu's calibre?

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      • SchoolTheseCats
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        #33
        Originally posted by 15 Rounds again
        The offers are going up but that is because they're overpaying. Tell me, do you think Wilder is actually worth 50/50?
        The fact that Joshua's side is being flexible shows that they're making every effort to fight, while Wilder is just full of s**t. Pricing himself out
        It’s called getting what you think you’re worth.... Pac-Man didn’t take the 40mil flat fee Floyd offered and look how that turned out for him, not saying Joshua or wilder is on that level but this is biggest fight that can happen in boxing other than Spence/Crawford... Hearn offering lowball flat fees proved he didn’t want it at the time now wilder is posturing and holding out for even more money and showing fight is worth more than what Hearn was trying pay out... Do wilder deserve 50/50 no 55/45 is fair or even 60/40 in Joshua favor like I said before though both teams have equal blame for fight not happening yet was Hearn fought before now it’s wilder fought

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        • Oshio
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          #34
          If Breazeale KOs Wilder, he would go for Joshua and that fight would be the same as the first

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          • Bronx2245
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            #35
            Originally posted by Laligalaliga
            you are missing the point and you are talking about different weight classes and different individuals.

            In HW, some fighters over value themselves. For example, do you think ortiz/wilder would have happened if Ortiz says wilder should give him 2mil or no fight? Or Fury says 50/50 or no fight coming off a drug vacation?

            It's no fault of AJ that Ortiz over valued himself above 7mil. Wilders team can and will never make him such offer but he reject going in their with AJ.
            It is what it is.

            The difference is other weight classes dnt gamble with payday offers when pacman calls. They grab it while it last.
            The weight class makes no difference! We're talking "Star Power!" For you to become a "Star" you need opponents who can make you a "Star!" What's really bothering Joshua is the fact, FOR WHATEVER REASONS, he is not where he wants to be, because he has not faced Wilder, Fury, and Ortiz! Canelo has faced them all! Pacquiao has faced them all! They have both faced higher quality opponents in multiple weight classes! We know Joshua can't fight in multiple weight classes, but casuals (the people paying) expect great fights! Right now, Joshua is not in any of them, and Wilder has been in all of them! Joshua's last "BIG ONE" was Wlad! Wilder just faced Ortiz and Fury, and there's a good possibility, he'll be ordered to fight Whyte, who also turned down Joshua! Joshua is stuck between a rock and a hard place!

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            • Bronx2245
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              #36
              Originally posted by Laligalaliga
              same as Ortiz but he was willing to fight Ortiz because he has health issues.
              That's too funny! LMAO!

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                #37
                Originally posted by neilt631
                Did Breezy really add his own name to the top five current HWs and not even mention Ortiz? lol He lost credibility points for that.
                What Ortiz? You mean that old coward? He isn’t top 8, who hasn’t Ortiz beaten??? Ortiz is a cheat and a coward...he ran like a little beech from the landlord!

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                • Laligalaliga
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245
                  The weight class makes no difference! We're talking "Star Power!" For you to become a "Star" you need opponents who can make you a "Star!" What's really bothering Joshua is the fact, FOR WHATEVER REASONS, he is not where he wants to be, because he has not faced Wilder, Fury, and Ortiz! Canelo has faced them all! Pacquiao has faced them all! They have both faced higher quality opponents in multiple weight classes! We know Joshua can't fight in multiple weight classes, but casuals (the people paying) expect great fights! Right now, Joshua is not in any of them, and Wilder has been in all of them! Joshua's last "BIG ONE" was Wlad! Wilder just faced Ortiz and Fury, and there's a good possibility, he'll be ordered to fight Whyte, who also turned down Joshua! Joshua is stuck between a rock and a hard place!
                  Lolx.... Ortiz is no big name in the HW set up. let's not get it twisted. his CV is weaker than Breazeale's, nothing close to whyte. That's by the way.
                  He blatantly refused to step up to fight AJ for his career ever payday till he retires. That's no fault of AJ. No challenger with a belt, not even a silver belt will reject such massive offer in lower weight classes.

                  You make reference to pacman rejecting 40mil. Of course he is right to reject it because at that time he was a big ppv star, same as Floyd with his own fans. That's the difference.
                  Neither wilder nor Ortiz is a ppv star. In fact fury gave him his only ppv fighter after 39 fights.

                  AJ's quest for the green belt is the reason wilder's stock went up.
                  Ortiz has nothing, why offer him 7mil? Eddie is spoiling these little HW's by offering them too much money.

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                  • Laligalaliga
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Bronx2245
                    That's too funny! LMAO!
                    of course... whatever doesn't have a defence is funny.
                    Lolx......

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                    • Laligalaliga
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Bonduu
                      What Ortiz? You mean that old coward? He isn’t top 8, who hasn’t Ortiz beaten??? Ortiz is a cheat and a coward...he ran like a little beech from the landlord!
                      hez just a hyperthensive chicken with one average win and a brutal KO to his name.

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