What? Javier won?!

[baya]

I guess I looked TOO much into that controversial "loss" sturm had at the hands of ODLH. Sturm is done now, he got TKO'd? I was sold on this dude, when you get TKO'd by sturm, who is just a spanish version of Gianluca Branco, you're done.

This was Jav's first fight at 160, too, huh? Sturmrules, what are your thoughts?

[PATO 1]

wtf how is sturm done

[baya]

wtf how is sturm done

when you're considered an ELITE at 160, which he was, there are more than our fair share of people who pick him over the likes of taylor, winky and the sort.

when you lose, to a C 154lb fighter going UP in weight whos basically just a euro punching bag, then you're done.

tell me, what else don't you understand about this, temible?

[PATO 1]

he was imo never considered a elite the only elite middleweights are jermain an winky no-one else

sturm is a very talented fighter who for some reason felt he had a point 2 prove against Castillejo when insteads of using his ability 2 comfortably outbox him.

this is just imo a setback for sturm

[Zerwas1]

when you're considered an ELITE at 160, which he was, there are more than our fair share of people who pick him over the likes of taylor, winky and the sort.

when you lose, to a C 154lb fighter going UP in weight whos basically just a euro punching bag, then you're done.

tell me, what else don't you understand about this, temible?

Let me guess, you haven't seen the fight, and El terrible has?