Can you score a round with a knockdown 10-9? 10-10? What is the deal?

[john l]

A lot of Judges in the past (probably present too) won't go below 10-7 because it doesn't give the fighter a chance to come back on the cards. I'm not a big fan of that.

It doesn't get scored 10-9 if there is a knockdown and you think the fighter who got knocked down won the round. It would be scored 9-9. Understand? 10 for the fighter who won the round (minus the 1 point knockdown). Remember, 10 point must system, then adjust the scores from there.

Really it should NEVER be 9-9 its a 10 point MUST system so if fighter dominated round and then got knocked down it would be 10-9.

[BM dnobagaV]

What was Joshua-Klit Round 5 scored?

Joshua dropped Wlad, beat him up a bit, then proceeded to get tossed the last minute of the round

[New England]

Theoretically a judge can do w/e. But most commissions in the US seem to frown upon 10-10 round in general. And they also appear to not like to see too many 10-9 rounds when a KD had happened.

Randomly that makes me recall of some country that maybe still does, but for sure used to be very 10-10 friendly in their scoring. Seems like it was some South American country. And you'd see a high amount of fighters from that country with a high amount of draws on their record (like 5+ & there were a several guys with double digit draws on their record) cuz the judges from that country just gave a high number of even rounds when scoring a fight which had draws being a much more likely outcome.

draws are common in argentina. monzon had 9 of them and he didn't fight all that long ago.


in the past fights were not even scored on a fighter's record if there were no knockouts. fights were scored as draws [called no decisions,] and "newspaper decisions" were awarded to the consensus winner.

[New England]

Really it should NEVER be 9-9 its a 10 point MUST system so if fighter dominated round and then got knocked down it would be 10-9.

you can get a 9-9 round if a fighter wins a round and has a point taken away. deductions are calculated after you score the round. otherwise your post is spot on, the scoring system is literally called the "10 point must" system.

[Eff Pandas]

draws are common in argentina. monzon had 9 of them and he didn't fight all that long ago.

Yea thats probably the country. Idk if they are on that same scoring system now as they used to be, but they were clearly on some lotsa even rounds scoring system in the past although I don't know the specifics.

[Boxing Goat]

He did get 10 points.. He won the round. But he was also knocked down. So he lost a point.

Same thing happens when a point is deducted by the ref and they still win a round.

I was just speaking in general, not necessarily regarding that fight.

I didn't even read the post.

[Fanofreason]

If you get knocked down your aren’t winning the round

[HeadBodyBodyBody]

No... guys I just explained to you how it works. It's a 10 point must system. This is how it works.

Fighter A is dominating a round, gets cracked by Figher B and gets up real quick and isn't hurt.

The Round is scored 9-9. Figher A gets a 10 and figher B gets a 9. Fighter A got a point deducted for being knocked down.

It's a 9-9 round. Get it?

Wrong. A knockdown is not the same as a point deducted for a foul. Knockdowns are scored within the round itself, whereas point-deductions for fouls are taken away after normal scoring, at the end of the round. The only way a boxer can win a round and end up with less than 10 points is if he has a point deducted for some infringement, as indicated by the referee. You have misunderstood the 10-point must system.

this is wrong! the system is literally called the 10 point must system. if a fighter knocks another fighter down the round is scored 10-8. if a fighter knocks another fighter down but badly loses the round you score it 10-9. the only way a fighter wins a round and gets less than 10 points is if there is a foul.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Ten-point_must_system

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Really it should NEVER be 9-9 its a 10 point MUST system so if fighter dominated round and then got knocked down it would be 10-9.

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you can get a 9-9 round if a fighter wins a round and has a point taken away. deductions are calculated after you score the round. otherwise your post is spot on, the scoring system is literally called the "10 point must" system.

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[john l]

you can get a 9-9 round if a fighter wins a round and has a point taken away. deductions are calculated after you score the round. otherwise your post is spot on, the scoring system is literally called the "10 point must" system.

Yes I was referring to the judges themselves. maybe I should have been more clear.

[Lomadeaux]

Wrong. A knockdown is not the same as a point deducted for a foul. Knockdowns are scored within the round itself, whereas point-deductions for fouls are taken away after normal scoring, at the end of the round. The only way a boxer can win a round and end up with less than 10 points is if he has a point deducted for some infringement, as indicated by the referee. You have misunderstood the 10-point must system.




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I'm going to need to find a fight or two where I've seen this. You guys might be right but I know I've seen this. HBO Boxing After Dark comes to mind. It's just so rare to see.