If Pacquiao beats Thurman he has to rank over Floyd historically

[IceTrayDaGang]

look at all the butt hurt floyd fans in here!!! YES!!! if manny beats thurman, he will be ranked higher than floyd!! in terms of accomplishments!! yall so salty "he cant be rank higher when he loss to floyd"..

[hugh grant]

How would I know that? Thurman might come back even worse than his last fight. No way to know that.

I don't know if the Pacman could beat him but, even if he did, it wouldn't do anything for me. I don't rate Thurman beyond the OK level.

To each their own.

We don't know if thurman deliberately performed below par to bag himself pac, fighters do that don't they? fury kind of did it before fighting wilder didn't he to make wilder.underestimate him?
Don't hold that against pac, thurman is prime. You might not rate thurman but people would have preferred Floyd to fight thurman than berto when Floyd was 36 or 37 that's fo sure.
People rate thurman

[The Big Dunn]

Come on we all know PAC had bad shoulder and Floyd didn't want to have a legit win. I haven't got official stats of who was favourite in prime. But people understand Floyd had physical advantages over pac and was bigger man and on paper had no losses.That don't make Floyd greater winning h2h.
But after Pac stopped cotto it was split who people thought would win. Person in street and boxing fans probably favoured Pac even if bookies were safe and sides with floyd.
I suppose jc is greater than bh just because jc is unbeaten and on paper had win over bh ?
But the fairest way to see it is Pac s resume is lightyears beyond jc. Whereas as for Floyd resume and bh resume you'd have to think about it. You might opt for Floyd over bh but nonetheless you'd have thought about it.

You have no credibility whatsoever. You asked Floyd to do something in order to be an ATG. When he did, you deleted the post rather than just admit he did something you said he wouldn't.

It's fine that you love Manny but there is a reason he is never ranked ahead of Floyd on any credible, unbiased ranking of boxers. This was before Floyd beat him so beating him only reinforces this.

I understand this bothers you a great deal but you should be able to let your feelings go. That is what a mature adult would do. Instead you continually try to come up with some way to make Manny better solely because you like him more.

Shameful, pathetic and immature.

[Nay_Sayer]

No debate

Pac is a damn dinosaur and hes facing a young lion in his PRIME.

Floyd DUCKED thurman as a mandatory with no shame.

If Manny pulls this off he surpasses Floyd in the history books.

LMAO

Mayweather holds a W over the current MW champion of the world.

Stop smoking the Crack...

[PrBoxing88]

Floyd the better boxer, Manny the better fighter.

[hugh grant]

You have no credibility whatsoever. You asked Floyd to do something in order to be an ATG. When he did, you deleted the post rather than just admit he did something you said he wouldn't.

It's fine that you love Manny but there is a reason he is never ranked ahead of Floyd on any credible, unbiased ranking of boxers. This was before Floyd beat him so beating him only reinforces this.

I understand this bothers you a great deal but you should be able to let your feelings go. That is what a mature adult would do. Instead you continually try to come up with some way to make Manny better solely because you like him more.

Shameful, pathetic and immature.

Pac is greater than Floyd in more boxing fans mind than FLoyd is.
Im not sure who is considered greater between BH and Joe Calzaghe. But JC is unbeaten and has a win over BH. So JC is akin to FLoyd. ANd BH is akin to Pac.
A part from Pac has titles in 8 divisions is smaller than FLoyd, compared to BH is to JC.

[The Big Dunn]

Pac is greater than Floyd in more boxing fans mind than FLoyd is.
Im not sure who is considered greater between BH and Joe Calzaghe. But JC is unbeaten and has a win over BH. So JC is akin to FLoyd. ANd BH is akin to Pac.
A part from Pac has titles in 8 divisions is smaller than FLoyd, compared to BH is to JC.

You can keep repeating this but that will never make it true.

Yes, Bhop is considered better than Calzaghe, just like Ali is considered better than Spinks, RJJr is better than Tarver, Chavez better than Randall, Duran better than Hearns, etc. etc. despite them winning. There are a number of instances where the loser H2H is considered better All time than the winner. That isn't the case with Floyd and Manny and the objective, unbiased rankings always show this. Nice try though.

The fact that you and others that either hate Floyd or love Manny post this repeatedly is one of the reasons the site has lost so much credibility. You guys come off as pathetic fanboys that can't get over the fact the guy you love lost to the guy you loathe.

Everytime Manny fights we get some version of this thread or we get a fantasy thread where a few clowns decide they have found the way to make Manny better than Floyd. It never works.

This is really getting boring.

[Nay_Sayer]

Looks like the GGGoons are reverting back to their PacIdiot original state. Lol..

[BoxingTrav]

This post is why Floyd fans have no credibility on subject.
Pac has better record against common opponents even Stevie wonder knows that. Cotto predicted Pac would beat floyd and stated he thought Floyd ducked Pac as he knew Pac would ko him (hardly sound s as if he think floyds better) and jmm said Pac s best of era.
Being knocked out in your career is not a barrier to b eing the best. When you fight at home it's easier to not be hit and be more accurate as there is no pressure. But meaningless sta ts like that don't equate to greatness and that's why no serious debates ever mentions things like that for any fighter in history. Floyd and his fans are only interested in the pointless stats, where taking risks isn't required.

Lol. Common opponents. Mosely, Marquez, De La Hoya, Cotto, Hatton. Floyd is 5-0, Manny is 6-1-1. Tell me which record is better?

Second, Pac was not only knocked out early, he was knocked out by Marquez, dropped by Hussein by a jab, etc. Floyd though fighting hard punchers was never put down on the canvas.

You can use the fighting internationally card if you want, what top fighter did Manny fight abroad?

Lastly we can all agree that they are special fighters. But we have to dissect the careers to make
a claim for who's greater. Resume matters, Floyd is unbeaten, untied, never been on the canvas, has fought on a championship level since hus second year as a pro. He beat Pac head to head. He shut out a man that Pac fought life and death with. A man that put Pac to sleep.


This is clear to me

[IceTrayDaGang]

Lol. Common opponents. Mosely, Marquez, De La Hoya, Cotto, Hatton. Floyd is 5-0, Manny is 6-1-1. Tell me which record is better?

Second, Pac was not only knocked out early, he was knocked out by Marquez, dropped by Hussein by a jab, etc. Floyd though fighting hard punchers was never put down on the canvas.

You can use the fighting internationally card if you want, what top fighter did Manny fight abroad?

Lastly we can all agree that they are special fighters. But we have to dissect the careers to make
a claim for who's greater. Resume matters, Floyd is unbeaten, untied, never been on the canvas, has fought on a championship level since hus second year as a pro. He beat Pac head to head. He shut out a man that Pac fought life and death with. A man that put Pac to sleep.


This is clear to me

floyd vs marquez = 12 rds dec
floyd vs oscar = 12 rds dec
floyd vs hatton = 10 rds tko
floyd vs molsey = 12 rds dec
floyd vs cotto = 12 rds dec


manny vs marquez 1,2,3,4 = 2 wins, 12 rds dec
manny vs oscar = 8 rds oscar quit
manny vs hatton = 2 rds ko!!
manny vs molsey = 12 rds dec
manny vs cotto = 12 rds tko