Comments Thread For: Canelo Alvarez is an Excellent Fighter... But Not The Best

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    #31
    Weak opinionated title until Loma and Crawford actually move up in weight and fight monsters like Canelo has Loma at 140 and Craw at 47

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    • Noelanthony
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      #32
      “Canelo has his hand raised more often than not” I stopped reading after that the writer has an agenda. You use a comment like that with a fighter like Amir Khan or Lamont Peterson, no disrespect to them but a fighter with a few losses on their records

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      • El Gitano
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        #33
        Originally posted by Shape up
        Loma has called out Mickey for the last 12 months, he has also called out Davis for the last 12 months, Canelo tries to put stipulations in place, 155lb, weight restrictions , dropping belts, how does trying to disadvantage your opponent add to your P4P ranking
        Mayweather did it late in his career and he's considered a top 20 ATG by some here.

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        • Citizen Koba
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          #34
          Gets dudes talking anyway. Lotta folk showing up to vent here even though all Rosenthal is doing is giving an opinion. Canelo is a fine fighter and has the best resume in the sport - even with the few asterisks it's still probably superior to anyone else's - however that does not necessarily mean that you have to consider him the best fighter in the world in a P4P sense.

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          • Lomasexual
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            #35
            Excellent article, and says exactly what I have been saying.

            Perhaps there are other award winning writers who disagree with him, I don't know. But for now it certainly looks like the difference between an award winning journalist and a fangirl is demonstrated clearly by this article and the people who went into a frenzy after reading it.

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            • aboutfkntime
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              #36
              Originally posted by revelated
              Michael, you're talking nonsense.

              If they were "legit" 160, they wouldn't have anywhere near the same speed. No speed, there's no way you beat Canelo Alvarez.


              your problem is this.....

              the question is..... if all things were equal, who would win..... NOT, who is the best middleweight.....

              ..... so, the question has to also be true in reverse.....

              ..... so..... IF, those fighters were all naturally the same size (say, lightweight)..... then, who would win.....?

              that is the exact same argument I used in last months (and pretty much every month before) P4P list

              Michael is saying exactly what I said in last months P4P update

              he is 100% correct, I would rank Crawford and Lomachenko ahead of my boy Canelo

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                #37
                Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
                Gets dudes talking anyway. Lotta folk showing up to vent here even though all Rosenthal is doing is giving an opinion. Canelo is a fine fighter and has the best resume in the sport - even with the few asterisks it's still probably superior to anyone else's - however that does not necessarily mean that you have to consider him the best fighter in the world in a P4P sense.



                again, something that I have been saying for MONTHS, usually following every P4P update.....

                * resume = current ATG (which is an oxymoron)
                * skills/style/form = P4P

                otherwise..... Pac would be #1, and Golovkin would not be on the P4P list at all

                good to see you paying attention to my posts

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                • Curtis Harper
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
                  Gets dudes talking anyway. Lotta folk showing up to vent here even though all Rosenthal is doing is giving an opinion. Canelo is a fine fighter and has the best resume in the sport - even with the few asterisks it's still probably superior to anyone else's - however that does not necessarily mean that you have to consider him the best fighter in the world in a P4P sense.
                  We are doing what this reporter did....giving our opinion, on his opinion.

                  If having the best resume doesn't = being the best ATM, then what does

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                  • jdp28tx
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                    #39
                    The most important factor in considering who is the best fighter is their resume. Everything else comes secondary. So looking at Canelo's resume is hard to argue that he is not the best active fighter today (although I consider him in top 3). Despite their strong athletic abilities, punching power, footwork, etc. Spence, Crawford, and others cannot be considered the best because they have weak resumes. Estrada, Loma, and Alvarez have the best resumes in boxing thus they are the best active fighters alive today.

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                    • Curtis Harper
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                      again, something that I have been saying for MONTHS, usually following every P4P update.....

                      * resume = current ATG (which is an oxymoron)
                      * skills/style/form = P4P

                      otherwise..... Pac would be #1, and Golovkin would not be on the P4P list at all

                      good to see you paying attention to my posts
                      The bold....isn't it easy to flex when you have part timers for opponents ?
                      Last edited by Curtis Harper; 05-11-2019, 03:58 AM.

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