Khan messed him self up by leaving Roach and Ariza

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  • i_am_a_champ
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    Khan messed him self up by leaving Roach and Ariza

    Ariza was saying Roach was trying to get Khan away from that amatuer style he was used to and work more on the body

    Like it or not Khan was in tip top shape with Roach and Ariza

    Ariza was saying training Manny and Khan together bought the best out of them both and it was very competitive.

    He lost one fight to DSG because of his reckless behaviour and jumped ship. That more or less ended his career

    He was terrible with Virge

    Worst choice he made.
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    #2
    Originally posted by i_am_a_champ
    Ariza was saying Roach was trying to get Khan away from that amatuer style he was used to and work more on the body

    Like it or not Khan was in tip top shape with Roach and Ariza

    Ariza was saying training Manny and Khan together bought the best out of them both and it was very competitive.

    He lost one fight to DSG because of his reckless behaviour and jumped ship. That more or less ended his career

    He was terrible with Virge

    Worst choice he made.
    I agree completely,Virgil hunter ruined him with that overactive bs,he barely fights & fights scrubs whenever not getting kod & Virg still had him acting like a jumping bean on speed. He gasses & gets kod,thats Virgils work. I'm not a fan of roach but can still recognize he was the best trainer khans ever had & kept him serious & inline.

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      #3
      A guy with no chin has no business training with Roach. Accept the fact that Khan just wasn't as good as you thought.

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      • Redd Foxx
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        #4
        Originally posted by kushking
        I agree completely,Virgil hunter ruined him with that overactive bs,he barely fights & fights scrubs whenever not getting kod & Virg still had him acting like a jumping bean on speed. He gasses & gets kod,thats Virgils work. I'm not a fan of roach but can still recognize he was the best trainer khans ever had & kept him serious & inline.
        WTF are you talking about? How does a guy like Khan, who has no chin and no power, win if he's not using a lot of movement?? Lol
        Plus, how the hell does a trainer dictate a guy's level of activity.

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          Originally posted by Redd Foxx
          WTF are you talking about? How does a guy like Khan, who has no chin and no power, win if he's not using a lot of movement?? Lol
          Plus, how the hell does a trainer dictate a guy's level of activity.
          Wtf are you talking about,a trainers job is literally to dictate a fighters activity level as well as teaching him when to focus on defense etc. Khan under Hunter started fighting with far less concentration & overactivity. Nobodies saying hed ever not be garbage & get kod,but rather merely that hes capable of looking far less like sht before getting kod & Hunters teaching have made his style far less professional.

          Khan should've been focusing on pacing himself & working non-stop on his timing & defense,but its CLEAR he was instead focused in trying to emulate a ******ed version of prince naseem & the main reason hed get kod was because while hes going a million miles a minute early in fights his opponents were focused on getting his timing figured out then chinning him.

          Thats how canelo chinned him,he was tired after a few rds,& his timing was horrible,as well as him needing his full concentration to avoid being chinned,whichs impossible when being exhausted.

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          • boliodogs
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            Damn right he did. He beat good fighters like Judah and Maidana with Roach and was a world champion. That was 7 years ago and he never beat even one world rated boxer since then and struggles with mediocre cherry picks like Diaz and Vargas. The younger Khan who was trained by Roach was much better than today's Khan but even then he wasn't that good.

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            • Redd Foxx
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              #7
              Originally posted by kushking
              Wtf are you talking about,a trainers job is literally to dictate a fighters activity level as well as teaching him when to focus on defense etc. Khan under Hunter started fighting with far less concentration & overactivity. Nobodies saying hed ever not be garbage & get kod,but rather merely that hes capable of looking far less like sht before getting kod & Hunters teaching have made his style far less professional.

              Khan should've been focusing on pacing himself & working non-stop on his timing & defense,but its CLEAR he was instead focused in trying to emulate a ******ed version of prince naseem & the main reason hed get kod was because while hes going a million miles a minute early in fights his opponents were focused on getting his timing figured out then chinning him.

              Thats how canelo chinned him,he was tired after a few rds,& his timing was horrible,as well as him needing his full concentration to avoid being chinned,whichs impossible when being exhausted.
              You seem new to this shyt so I'll explain it in basic terms for you;
              -Trainers don't decide how often a fighter takes fights. Managers do that.

              -Khan slowed because Canelo was investing in body shots the whole fight. It wasn't gassing from movement you goof. You have to develop your eye to see that stuff. Boxing is more than seeing who's head gets snapped back. In fact, further proof, he caught Khan because Khan was getting weary of body shots and when Canelo went up top he was able to catch him clean.

              Guys like Khan who don't have power or durability have to move. Tell me when Khan ever got a win from planting his feet. Go ahead. Because I can tell you that ALL of his best wins were from movement. Even the times he finished the opponent.
              Last edited by Redd Foxx; 05-10-2019, 10:07 PM.

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                #8
                Originally posted by boliodogs
                Damn right he did. He beat good fighters like Judah and Maidana with Roach and was a world champion. That was 7 years ago and he never beat even one world rated boxer since then and struggles with mediocre cherry picks like Diaz and Vargas. The younger Khan who was trained by Roach was much better than today's Khan but even then he wasn't that good.
                Algieri too.

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                • Bjl12
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                  #9
                  Roach is the trainer that let Khan get KTFO like 4 times in the Danny Garcia fight.

                  Roach wanted Khan to develop Parkinson's so he wasn't alone.

                  Roach was a horrible, 1-dimensional trainer. I was never a fan of his style. Never

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                    #10
                    Khans just a good not great fighter.

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