Now is the perfect time to make Canelo vs. Spence

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  • Sledgeweather17
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    #41
    Originally posted by Boxfan83
    Hate to break it to u, 147 will remain undefined. Supposedly porter wants spence but i guarantee if Manny calls, Porter will jump on that. Thurman too. & Crawford vs Spence wont happen until 1 of them loses value. Spence moving up and possibly taking an L would benfit him if his true intention is unifying.
    Bruh its pretty much already been established that Thurman/Pac is happening in July and Spence/Porter in August/September. Only waiting for the official announcement now.

    How does Spence taking an L benefit anyone? Bruh what are you smoking?

    The only thing that benefits everyone is for Spence to unify the pbc side and then fight Crawford just like he said was the plan.

    There are two reasons why the Crawford vs Spence fight is not happening.

    1) There are big inhouse fights/Unifications that still need to be made on the PBC side. Haymon won't throw Bob a bone until he has milked those unifcations (Porter/Spence/Pacman/Thurman).

    2) The Crawford vs Spence fight is not big enough yet for a crossover event. Arum/ESPN won't let their golden goose fight on showtime/fox, and haymon/showtime/fox won't let Spence fight on ESPN.

    Therefore the only way for the fight to happen is for the fight to be big enough (financially of course) that ESPN/Showtime are willing to share the spoils. That requires that Spence continue to build his brand by beating top class fighters and collecting the belts and for Crawford to keep playing the boogieman role and convincing the viewers that Spence is scared of him.

    There was a time no one could mention Canelo without GGG's name being connected to him, and there was a time no one could mention Mayweather's name without Pacquiao popping up.

    If Spence becomes more famous and popular by unifying belts and being in big fights, then Crawford is wise to keep calling him out and making Spence appear to be scared of him, in other words, connecting his name to that of Errol Spence.

    Therefore the more Spence becomes popular and famous, the more Crawford becomes popular and famous.

    That is the path to making this fight.

    Bob knows it, Spence knows it, Crawford knows it, and Haymon knows it.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #42
      Originally posted by Longhaul
      Wtf are you smoking !
      Nothing so far today. I would think you'd have more of an issue with an absurd thread then you would me picking Spence to beat Canelo.

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      • Jubei
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        #43
        LOL Spence wouldnt even fight Crawford but Haymon will let him go to DAZN so he gets beat up up on a rival network? Do you follow boxing at all?

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        • Longhaul
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          #44
          Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
          Bruh there is LITERALLY no evidence of Spence outgrowing the weight class. He has not once complained about cutting weight nor has there been any talk from him or his camp about him struggling to make weight.

          You probably read something some troll said on this site and regurgitated it without checking the facts.

          If enough people tell a lie enough times people start to believe it, I get that, but you don't sound like one of them trolls if anything you sound like a reasonable guy so I don't get why you're selling this lie.

          Ps. Porter fought at 165 in the amateurs, but Spence fought at 152 in the amateurs. Think about that.
          I seen the interview when he was going to fight Brook and there was talk of brook not making weight he was stating what his walk around weight was and how tough it was for him to cut to 147.That you can find on you tube.The other interview I’m still looking for where he talked about cutting for weight and his weight in the amateurs and how long he’s been at 147.He was basically saying it was going to be sooner than later because of the discomfort of coming in at 147.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Boxfan83
            I stand corrected 23. Even more impressive for FMJr.
            A 36 year old man beat a 23 year old that easily. Quite impressive indeed.

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            • Longhaul
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              #46
              Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
              Bruh its pretty much already been established that Thurman/Pac is happening in July and Spence/Porter in August/September. Only waiting for the official announcement now.

              How does Spence taking an L benefit anyone? Bruh what are you smoking?

              The only thing that benefits everyone is for Spence to unify the pbc side and then fight Crawford just like he said was the plan.

              There are two reasons why the Crawford vs Spence fight is not happening.

              1) There are big inhouse fights/Unifications that still need to be made on the PBC side. Haymon won't throw Bob a bone until he has milked those unifcations (Porter/Spence/Pacman/Thurman).

              2) The Crawford vs Spence fight is not big enough yet for a crossover event. Arum/ESPN won't let their golden goose fight on showtime/fox, and haymon/showtime/fox won't let Spence fight on ESPN.

              Therefore the only way for the fight to happen is for the fight to be big enough (financially of course) that ESPN/Showtime are willing to share the spoils. That requires that Spence continue to build his brand by beating top class fighters and collecting the belts and for Crawford to keep playing the boogieman role and convincing the viewers that Spence is scared of him.

              There was a time no one could mention Canelo without GGG's name being connected to him, and there was a time no one could mention Mayweather's name without Pacquiao popping up.

              If Spence becomes more famous and popular by unifying belts and being in big fights, then Crawford is wise to keep calling him out and making Spence appear to be scared of him, in other words, connecting his name to that of Errol Spence.

              Therefore the more Spence becomes popular and famous, the more Crawford becomes popular and famous.

              That is the path to making this fight.

              Bob knows it, Spence knows it, Crawford knows it, and Haymon knows it.
              Again with your tiresome argument of boxing politics that we are all familiar with.This is a different situation in that he will out grow the division and he knows he’s going 154.He has no intention of fighting bud at 147.

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              • Longhaul
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                #47
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                Nothing so far today. I would think you'd have more of an issue with an absurd thread then you would me picking Spence to beat Canelo.
                It wasn’t meant as an insult and I wasn’t even sure if you were maybe joking when you said Canelo would win two rounds.Who knows who would win but I know one thing I would bet he wins more than two rounds.The thing about Canelo is he seems to fade in the late rounds .

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Boxfan83
                  C'mon dude, Spence isnt floyd. Not even close. & Canelo isnt 20 anymore. Personally I think Floyd beats Canelo at any age but Spence on the otherhand hasnt shown anything to mention greatness. At 29/30yo Floyd was moving up to his 5th weight class to fight a legend after just 3 fights at a weight class below.

                  1 thing canelo showed me is he is fully in his boxing prime.
                  Spence isn't Floyd. He is a true WW not a SFW that moved up as he aged. Canelo wasn't 20 when he fought Floyd.

                  Ok, fair point Spence hasn't shown that level of greatness.

                  I think the key is speed. Canelo has shown he can outbox those slower than him. can he outbox someone faster and more athletic?

                  The fights with Floyd and Lara suggest he can't, despite the scorecards in each fight.

                  But Canelo will be bigger and stronger and is much more experienced fighter at 28 than he was at 23.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Longhaul
                    It wasn’t meant as an insult and I wasn’t even sure if you were maybe joking when you said Canelo would win two rounds.Who knows who would win but I know one thing I would bet he wins more than two rounds.The thing about Canelo is he seems to fade in the late rounds .
                    Oh yeah I forgot I did throw that in. Sorry I honestly forgot about that shade. I'm gonna redk myself for that LOL.

                    yeah Spence needs to box and move and see if he can win rounds 10-12 convincingly.

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                    • KillaMane26
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
                      Bruh its pretty much already been established that Thurman/Pac is happening in July and Spence/Porter in August/September. Only waiting for the official announcement now.

                      How does Spence taking an L benefit anyone? Bruh what are you smoking?

                      The only thing that benefits everyone is for Spence to unify the pbc side and then fight Crawford just like he said was the plan.

                      There are two reasons why the Crawford vs Spence fight is not happening.

                      1) There are big inhouse fights/Unifications that still need to be made on the PBC side. Haymon won't throw Bob a bone until he has milked those unifcations (Porter/Spence/Pacman/Thurman).

                      2) The Crawford vs Spence fight is not big enough yet for a crossover event. Arum/ESPN won't let their golden goose fight on showtime/fox, and haymon/showtime/fox won't let Spence fight on ESPN.

                      Therefore the only way for the fight to happen is for the fight to be big enough (financially of course) that ESPN/Showtime are willing to share the spoils. That requires that Spence continue to build his brand by beating top class fighters and collecting the belts and for Crawford to keep playing the boogieman role and convincing the viewers that Spence is scared of him.

                      There was a time no one could mention Canelo without GGG's name being connected to him, and there was a time no one could mention Mayweather's name without Pacquiao popping up.

                      If Spence becomes more famous and popular by unifying belts and being in big fights, then Crawford is wise to keep calling him out and making Spence appear to be scared of him, in other words, connecting his name to that of Errol Spence.

                      Therefore the more Spence becomes popular and famous, the more Crawford becomes popular and famous.

                      That is the path to making this fight.

                      Bob knows it, Spence knows it, Crawford knows it, and Haymon knows it.



                      Ouuu someone with a brain ^^^^^

                      This been the OBVIOUS plan since Crawford moved to 147. Im sorry but people are ****** asf. No disrespect lol

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