Canelo wants Andrade next. DAZN & Hearn wants GGG next

[bigdunny1]

They may have. The Canelo/GGG fight has the potential to draw subscriptions not just in the US but outside where GGG still is very popular as an opponent for Canelo.

In that regard, they want him looking like a monster so they give him the Rolls fight, assuming he wins by KO, which sets up the 3rd Canelo fight.

Win or lose they only benefit by putting him in with really strong opponents at 160 (jacobs rematch ) or 168.

If that were true and DAZN is the one forcing GGG to fight Rolls then why did they make Canelo/Jacobs? That was a risky fight and they have more money wrapped up in Canelo winning and stay looking good then they do GGG. Truth is GGG fought Vanes a year ago and fought numerous bums his entire career that had nothing to do with DAZN. Matter fact when GGG was shopping deals he was requesting a tune up fight as well. Remember the Showtime offer was a 3 fight deal to fight a tune up bum then fight Charlo at the end of the year. The ESPN deal was to fight Murta but that bum couldn't even get by Brant first.

All the other networks GGG negotiated with were GGG asking for a bum fight first and GGG's history of taking soft touches lines up with why he wanted Rolls. DAZN clearly wants Canelo/GGG 3 but we need to stop making excuses for the level of fights GGG keeps making on DAZN on HBO and the type of fights he was requesting throughout the negotiations with Showtime and ESPN.

[bigdunny1]

Well hearn is over compensating most of his fighters to get his network more exposure. Most of his fighters won't really care as long as they get paid.

I really wanted to see charlo get his shot though. I think if signed with hearn he would have them enforce that Mando he was due for almost two years.

Andrade hasn't been paid yet. Hearn's first obligation is to his own client. You think Andrade cares about any other fighters? In boxing 1 fight can end your career and he is on the door step to his first big payday first big fight and his own promoter is publicly trying to take that away from him. That's not a good look. There is clearly a conflict of interest going on and Hearn don't have his client's best interest at hand. If you Andrade and his camp you have to be furious. A Canelo fight sets up his family for life.

[The Big Dunn]

If that were true and DAZN is the one forcing GGG to fight Rolls then why did they make Canelo/Jacobs? That was a risky fight and they have more money wrapped up in Canelo winning and stay looking good then they do GGG. Truth is GGG fought Vanes a year ago and fought numerous bums his entire career that had nothing to do with DAZN. Matter fact when GGG was shopping deals he was requesting a tune up fight as well. Remember the Showtime offer was a 3 fight deal to fight a tune up bum then fight Charlo at the end of the year. The ESPN deal was to fight Murta but that bum couldn't even get by Brant first.

All the other networks GGG negotiated with were GGG asking for a bum fight first and GGG's history of taking soft touches lines up with why he wanted Rolls. DAZN clearly wants Canelo/GGG 3 but we need to stop making excuses for the level of fights GGG keeps making on DAZN on HBO and the type of fights he was requesting throughout the negotiations with Showtime and ESPN.

They need to sell subscriptions dunny. Canelo/Jacobs is probably the best MW to be made on Cinco de Mayo this year. You can't follow Canelo/Fielding with another garbage fight and expect to sell subscriptions.

It appears DAZN is building toward the 3rd GGG/canelo fight the same way HBO built GGG as an opponent -by making him look like a monster by feeding him easy KO wins. When you are popular like GGG, fans don't hold you to the same standard as most fighters. You know this.

Explaining a situation to answer a poster's question isn't making excuses, Making excuses is what you did regarding DAZN's terrible weekend LOL. I am awaiting your answer to my post in the other thread.

[Idunnoshet]

Although I'm more interested in the style match up of Canelo / Andrade than a GGG trilogy . I think Andrade is the easier fight of the two for Canelo.

[cork]

Andrade hasn't been paid yet. Hearn's first obligation is to his own client. You think Andrade cares about any other fighters? In boxing 1 fight can end your career and he is on the door step to his first big payday first big fight and his own promoter is publicly trying to take that away from him. That's not a good look. There is clearly a conflict of interest going on and Hearn don't have his client's best interest at hand. If you Andrade and his camp you have to be furious. A Canelo fight sets up his family for life.

No Andrade doesn't care about other people's money but he knows he's in line to get paid.

It's not debatable hearn is over paying everyone. Andrade will get his turn.

Hearn isn't concern about people feeling. He needs his network to succeed.

[bigdunny1]

They need to sell subscriptions dunny. Canelo/Jacobs is probably the best MW to be made on Cinco de Mayo this year. You can't follow Canelo/Fielding with another garbage fight and expect to sell subscriptions.

It appears DAZN is building toward the 3rd GGG/canelo fight the same way HBO built GGG as an opponent -by making him look like a monster by feeding him easy KO wins. When you are popular like GGG, fans don't hold you to the same standard as most fighters. You know this.

Explaining a situation to answer a poster's question isn't making excuses, Making excuses is what you did regarding DAZN's terrible weekend LOL. I am awaiting your answer to my post in the other thread.

Saying DAZN wants Canelo/GGG 3 is obvious not worth debating and not the problem here. The problem is why can't GGG fight anyone with a pulse BEFORE that. Canelo fighting Fielding and Jacobs is much better opponents then Rolls who GGG is fighting and who currently is ranked as the 109th best middleweight in the world

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/568032

GGG could of fought Andrade or any of the top 15 Middleweight of the world and that would at least be respectable and still should be a winnable fight for a guy of GGG's so called caliber. And saying DAZN dictated this I don't buy because he requested chump opponents when he negotiated with Showtime and ESPN and his history of opponents he chose while at HBO speak for itself. Which is why I don't buy oh well GGG wanted to fight a killer but DAZN making him fight Rolls that's BS. This isn't about DAZN and whether you like them or not this is a pattern of GGG choosing chump opponents to fight he did it on HBO and he planned on doing it on Showtime or ESPN.

[BoxingIsGreat]

Imagine being Andrade and you are actually signed with this guy and he's telling the world you should not get the fight and the millions that come with it. This is a problem where Hearn is thinking IN DAZN best interest and not his own fighter. lol

The bold: Exactly.

That Adrade dude doesn't look that bright. I'm not really sure if he wants the Canelo fight either.

[paulf]

Hearn's got Andrade an easy strap, paid him 800k to fight a nobody in his last outing, and has him set up to earn over a million against Sulecki. I'd say he's done fine by him so far.

For a guy with zero fans and a really ugly style, its totally reasonable for Hern to logically suggest that GGG-Canelo is next. It's where the money is and Hearn knows the business as good as anyone. Andrade is going to have to build his brand with some good wins and hopefully in entertaining fights if he's going to land GGG or Canelo.

There's no rush here, Adrade just recently became a title holder. I can see him getting either Canelo next year for undisputed, or GGG if he loses and wants to grab another belt.

[The Big Dunn]

Saying DAZN wants Canelo/GGG 3 is obvious not worth debating and not the problem here. The problem is why can't GGG fight anyone with a pulse BEFORE that. Canelo fighting Fielding and Jacobs is much better opponents then Rolls who GGG is fighting and who currently is ranked as the 109th best middleweight in the world

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/568032

GGG could of fought Andrade or any of the top 15 Middleweight of the world and that would at least be respectable and still should be a winnable fight for a guy of GGG's so called caliber. And saying DAZN dictated this I don't buy because he requested chump opponents when he negotiated with Showtime and ESPN and his history of opponents he chose while at HBO speak for itself. Which is why I don't buy oh well GGG wanted to fight a killer but DAZN making him fight Rolls that's BS. This isn't about DAZN and whether you like them or not this is a pattern of GGG choosing chump opponents to fight he did it on HBO and he planned on doing it on Showtime or ESPN.

Come dunny, they don't want to risk GGG looking bad so DAZN is feeding him a bum so he can whack him out and get back to looking like a monster. essentially, the same reason he picked Vanes.

Hold up, where did I post GGG wanted to fight a killer but DAZN made him fight Rolls? I never posted or suggestion anything of the sort. I know that isn't the case. I know GGG likes the soft, weak opposition.

I think you are confusing my post with another.

[Eff Pandas]

LOL thats my twitter account bro lol. And I stand by my stance that it'll be interesting to see who's side is deemed more "mutually beneficial".

One issue I think is relevant that I didn't realize at the time, but have come to realize is a problem (respect to Rexy for bringing it up) is that Andrade fighting in late June might prevent a early September fight (11-12 weeks between fights) from being a reality. So idk if DAZN wins with a GGG III fight cuz it doesn't seem like Canelo & GBP want it all that much, but GBP will have to come up with a legit fight besides Andrade or push back their usual schedule to make Andrade vs Canelo make sense.

Or maybe 11-12 weeks is doable if Andrade has few issues or ends it early with Maciej-sp, but I tend to doubt GBP or DAZN wants to have a potential Canelo vs TBA fight on the schedule if Andrade gets cut or loses (as I think is always possible with him) & they have to search for a replacement.