Which other hw champion in history has unashamedly ducked as transparently as Wilder?

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You must've been hiding under a rock someplace over the past six months. There has been no mention of Wilder wanting to fight Joshua in 2019. In 2018 yes but Eddie Hearn reneged on that contract in order to fight Povetkin instead.

Earlier this year, Wilder visited DAZN to prove that he was a network free agent and could sign with any platform that he yet so choose. However, he decided to stick with the people who got him where he is; Whom are Al Haymon and Showtime.

He's a free agent that refuses to fight anywhere else other than a PBC promoted card. Got it.

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When you have Hearn moving the goal post every time this is the narrative that you get.

Wilder turning down 100 Mill to fight AJ and now refusing to fight him until 2020 as well as 50/50 if it's offered.

It's called truth. Maybe it will catch on in the US in another century or so.

But in the mean time, keep up with the maddening levels of lies and propaganda, yeah.

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Everyone was cool when Hearn tried to big boy Wilder into take a fight when he felt he had the control. Now that Wilder has control people are making him out to be the bad guy.

What control does Wilder have? The control that's exists in his and your head?

Oh right.

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Those guys told you they didn't want the fight until 2020 and everyone seems to forget even though it's on video.

What, 2 years ago?

Yeah, that makes perfect sense in the here and now with Wilder running for the hills like a coward.

Wilder has said he's ready. AJ is ready. Why is Wilder ducking the fight now?

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[QUOTE=The Big Dunn;19721762]I'm not twisting the truth. You are just acting as if his primary concern is fans when his primary concern is growing DAZN which no one can fault him for IMO.

There was no way he could launch DAZN with AJ as undisputed champ given Wilder held the WBC belt.

No, Hearn wasn't willing to risk all the marbles. if he had, he would've made the fight prior to launching DAZN but didn't want to risk AJ having no belts and a loss.

SO now fast forward-DAZN isn't meeting projections so he offers WIlder a crazy amount, not because he is doing what is best for fans, but BECAUSE THAT FIGHT WOULD QUICKLY HELP DAZN MEET SALES EXPECTATIONS IT IS NOT MEETING!!

I wanted to see the fight already. The price is not an issue. Hearn deprived me of that by lying about wanting to make the fight when he really wanted to help launch DAZN. So I have been waiting for the fight.

Hearn charging less doesn't make up for blocking the fight initially and lying about wanting to make it.

You have no issue with Hearn trying to maximize his revenue but want to condemn Haymon for doing same.

I don't even remember Hearn saying that, but even if he did, how does it mean he wasn't intending to make the AJ/Wilder fight for last April?

we've discussed this before. you can't make a Wilder/AJ fight and plan to launch DAZN with a non US PPV at the same time given Wilder/Aj was going to be on PPV to maximize revenue.

All of these supposed problems that DAZN have are going to go away if Wilder fights AJ on that platform now?

WTF. You think Wilder is such a big star that he will make DAZN a success or something? Haha. Whatever floats your boat.

[Phenom]

Wilder turning down 100 Mill to fight AJ and now refusing to fight him until 2020 as well as 50/50 if it's offered.

It's called truth. Maybe it will catch on in the US in another century or so.

But in the mean time, keep up with the maddening levels of lies and propaganda, yeah.

That's not the truth doe

Wilder was offered a DAZN network exclusivity contract not Joshua fight contract AJ was offered the Wilder fight contract not a PBC or showtime contract

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Bowe didn’t duck Lewis. Just ask Rock Newman.

Wilder is ducking Joshua though. That 50m offer was a PR stunt and Hearn called Finkel’s bluff two days after that offer became public. No one has heard of any offer from Wilder’s side since then.

However, Hearn has made multiple offers that Wilder has turned down. He doesn’t want the fight.

Just ask his manager in Rock Newman? Yeah, because he'll tell the truth of him and Bowe ducking Lewis wouldn't he.

Newman made an offer that could be refused. He was shocked when Lewis came back and said he'd accept it. Newman then claimed the bullshlt offer was now off the table.

Forget what that idiot has to say on the matter.

[Fanofreason]

4 top HWs

AJ
Wilder
Fury
Ortiz

Wilder has fought the most at 2.

AJ has fought zero. Who exactly is the duck?

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That's not the truth doe

Wilder was offered a DAZN network exclusivity contract not Joshua fight contract AJ was offered the Wilder fight contract not a PBC or showtime contract

If Wilder signed up with DAZN, AJ was going to refuse the fight? Dream land.

Both Finkle and Wilder has said 2 AJ fights were part of the 3 fight deal. They're just using anything they can get to deflect all of this negative attention. And if you think AJ was going to fight on PBC without a rematch clause, you're more deranged than even I thought.

Their slander and smear campaign didn't work in the end did it? Haha. Liars and cowards are always exposed.

[Sid-Knee]

4 top HWs

AJ
Wilder
Fury
Ortiz

Wilder has fought the most at 2.

AJ has fought zero. Who exactly is the duck?

None of the other 3 want anything to do with Joshua even though there's huge money at stake. Nothing you can do when they're all scared. They fought each other but think AJ is a step too far. Haha.

Enjoy your crack pipe.