Saul Alvarez CLEARLY roided to the gills.

[tokon]

Canelo has obviously been on PEDs in the past, after all he failed a drug test for clen! I tend to believe that isn't all he's taken. However, since that fail, he has been fully VADA tested and I think he'd have been caught again if he was taking anything that's presently on the "banned" list.

[HitmanTommy]

I have already said it and will again. Canelo is juicing hard. I was asked on another thread and I responded.

No one goes from I have no stamina to Super Stamina man overnight.

Guy is obviously still juicing

He has been caught before with a PED that improved your conditioning. Remember that first Golovkin fight where he was huffing and puffing all over the ring? Now all of a sudden he can keep a high pace consistently for 12 rounds without tiring at all...seems very suspect to me.

hmmmm.....

[SplitSecond]

eh, there didn't seem anything roided about him yesterday. He couldn't sustain a high output, he was tiring towards the end of rounds and then tiring at the end of the fight. It wasn't Canelo's best showing, not even close. And perhaps this was more do to how massive Jacobs was and how defensive he fought, but he couldn't hurt his opponent with any one shot either.

Agreed, physically to me he looked less than usual, not the same energy. Could be signs of him slowing down already, despite his age, has a lot of fights. Maybe a break from boxing would do his now natural(apparently) body some good.

[JJRod]

Here comes the wave of Canelo hate threads by idiots who know very little.

[eco1]

I don't think it is a wave of haters, I used to support this arse, I was a fan, but I always come clean and I am not a fanboy of any man!

Check in some post were I said that despite also been a Golovkin fan I think his next fight is utter poopoo and a disgrace and a disservice to his fans. F that fight too.

I am a boxing fan, I hate all that is wrong with boxing today!

[monkeyboy]

Based on my premise that all top fighters are using PEDs and the more money you make the better team you can afford to help you avoid detection (Lance Armstrong never tested positive) with new drugs, screens, avoidance techniques, etc it is still a wash and Canelo is still the superior fighter.
Canelo fought smart, hard and had superior skills. Jacobs had superior size and reach but didn’t use it. Nor did he use his brain to understand he was going to be behind on the cards and go for broke.

[NoConcoms]

Based on my premise that all top fighters are using PEDs and the more money you make the better team you can afford to help you avoid detection (Lance Armstrong never tested positive) with new drugs, screens, avoidance techniques, etc it is still a wash and Canelo is still the superior fighter.
Canelo fought smart, hard and had superior skills. Jacobs had superior size and reach but didn’t use it. Nor did he use his brain to understand he was going to be behind on the cards and go for broke.

This exactly. Jacobs knew what he was up against, and he didn't go for broke like he needed to.

Canelo is the modern Pacquiao; Juiced to High Heaven, but everyone turns a blind eye to it, because he's "good" for the sport.

And unlike Pacman, he's already failed a drug test. This is not hate, either. I like Canelo. I think he's an excellent fighter. As he showed last night.

I can't say I would do anything different if I were in his shoes.

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Definitely juiced up.

[W1LL]

I don't get the snowflake posters who cry "HATER!!!1!" at opinions they don't like? I am not a hater, I have came to this conclusion through studying Boxing for decades. I have seen this type of thing time again, and the offenders, and those who have been caught and/or exposed after the events, they always have the same telltale signs. To me there is no question Canelo is juicing. It is clear to see, same as it was clear to see with Manny Pacquiao, same as it was clear to see with Roy Jones Jr.. I am not a hater, just stating the obvious. I have no agenda, other than wanting to watch clean, fair Boxing where the best fight the best with no cheating or politicking.

[blue_dolphin]

I don't get the snowflake posters who cry "HATER!!!1!" at opinions they don't like? I am not a hater, I have came to this conclusion through studying Boxing for decades. I have seen this type of thing time again, and the offenders, and those who have been caught and/or exposed after the events, they always have the same telltale signs. To me there is no question Canelo is juicing. It is clear to see, same as it was clear to see with Manny Pacquiao, same as it was clear to see with Roy Jones Jr.. I am not a hater, just stating the obvious. I have no agenda, other than wanting to watch clean, fair Boxing where the best fight the best with no cheating or politicking.

but u talking all this sht with FURY as an avatar

sit yo ass down