Does the current era of welters pale in comparison to the last one?

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  • dibzvincent143
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    Does the current era of welters pale in comparison to the last one?

    What’s your verdict on this one?

    I used to think we’re just in awe of how the Floyd’s and the manny’s from the previous era were beautifully marketed by HBO and showtime (esp in the social media age) that we miss the greatness and potential of the new comers.
    But few years had passed since their time and come to think of it.
    Cotto and Margarito were not even as highly regarded as Spence right now at welter but 10 years ago they would have beaten Mikey Garcia who climbed two weight classes like a drum at welter.
    Even Prime Hatton would have outmuscled and wrestled Mikey to submission at welter.

    Fossil Mosley 10 years ago would have dropped past prime Khan like a bag of potatoes.

    I hope I’m wrong but the window for the current welters to acquire greatness as the prev era, let alone the eras before that, is fast closing as most of them are already in their 30s.

    Thoughts?
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    Hell no.Past boxers are always rated ahead of the new guys. Spence and Crawford are excellent and don't pale next to any past welterweights. They might not beat prime Hearns and Leonard but those are all time great welterweights who crushed the best other welterweights of that era.

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      Prime Cotto would beat any top 10 welterweight today.

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        Originally posted by boliodogs
        Hell no.Past boxers are always rated ahead of the new guys. Spence and Crawford are excellent and don't pale next to any past welterweights. They might not beat prime Hearns and Leonard but those are all time great welterweights who crushed the best other welterweights of that era.
        Base on their competition and performances on their last fights, given they’re on their primes and given the opponents, they do pale.

        Put 2007-08 Cotto in there and he’d blast both Past prime amir and chubby Mikey

        And like I said Cotto, ain’t even rated as high as spence or crawford in the peak of his career

        No need to even go way back to the hearns and the leonards

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          Originally posted by mp1110
          Prime Cotto would beat any top 10 welterweight today.
          Base on their recent performances, I agree. He puts chubby mikey and past prime amir earlier as well

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            The Floyd and Pacquiao era? Well, yeah.....

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              I really think the WW division has held up and didn't weaken like everyone predicted. Problem is, the matchmaking. It's bad. The true talents aren't able to shine and the gatekeepers are in the spotlight because they're the ones fighting the champs. It makes the div look like a joke but that's boxing in general right now. Tons of talent but nothing exciting happening.

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                the baldomir era will never be topped stop talking crazy

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                  Margarito Cotto Clottey are not better than Thurman Crawford Spence let's stop being ****** take Floyd Mayweather out of it and this current WW are better

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by dibzvincent143
                    What’s your verdict on this one?

                    I used to think we’re just in awe of how the Floyd’s and the manny’s from the previous era were beautifully marketed by HBO and showtime (esp in the social media age) that we miss the greatness and potential of the new comers.
                    But few years had passed since their time and come to think of it.
                    Cotto and Margarito were not even as highly regarded as Spence right now at welter but 10 years ago they would have beaten Mikey Garcia who climbed two weight classes like a drum at welter.
                    Even Prime Hatton would have outmuscled and wrestled Mikey to submission at welter.

                    Fossil Mosley 10 years ago would have dropped past prime Khan like a bag of potatoes.

                    I hope I’m wrong but the window for the current welters to acquire greatness as the prev era, let alone the eras before that, is fast closing as most of them are already in their 30s.

                    Thoughts?
                    The current batch is terrible. Crawford wouldve held his own against prime Floyd and prime Manny. Hes literally the only one.

                    The jury isn't out on Spencer yet. Solid prospect, but hes 29 and still just a prospect. And he takes every opportunity to act like a promoter to stop the Crawford fight from happening. Dude looks shook like Mikey did Gamboa

                    MMAporter is horrible and would be Andre Berto level 10 years ago. Danny Garcia is horrible and would be Judah level. Thurman is like a Malignaggi honestly.

                    The last batch of Mosley, Cotto, Floyd, Manny, Bradley, Margarito, Paul Williams, and Malignaggi was definitely better...4 first ballot HOF with 1-2 other HOF possibilities (Bradley, etc.)

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