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  • ShoulderRoll
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    #131
    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
    What is AJ’s incentive to leave tens of millions on the table to be split with a fighter who isn’t a PPV attraction? Fury sold 5e Wilder fight, not Wilder. Check Wilder’s viewership numbers and purses prior to Fury fight. Dismal.
    AJ's incentive is to get his hands on the massive amount of money that can be generated by American PPV and site fee licenses. He needs Wilder or someone similar for that.

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    • LCRUMMY36
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      #132
      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
      It compare their actual earnings. AJ earning average of $18-$20M per fight while Wilder—without Fury, earns about $2M per fight. Why should AJ go 50/50 when he is clearly the higher earned? I won’t be include the 20 or so endorsement deals AJ has that earn him millions more. How many emdorsement deals Wilder have?

      Because Wilder/AJ would expect to bring in Mayweather/PAC type money...

      That's money is only there if they fight each other so it should be a split..

      Neither one is earning that type of money without one another

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      • Sledgeweather17
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        #133
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        Thats crazy talk.

        They're both 31. They're both 3 division champions (Loma does edge him in being #1 in 3 divisions vs Bud only being #1 in 2 divisions so far). But Loma is a 3 division lil guy champ. Bud is a 2 division lil guy champ & now he's a champ in one of the most popular divisions in boxing history & where the big money fights have been happening at the most in our era & where there are a ton of big fights to be made.

        Loma doesn't even have opponents anyone cares about him fighting THAT much. Loma vs Tank is Loma's MayPac fight probably ffs.

        Bud has one of the bigger fights in boxing looming vs Spence.

        And the most important thing is foreign fighters got a much harder climb to be big draws in boxing. Bud as a American is a much easier sell.

        And also its a lil lame but like it or not Bud's undefeated record sells to casuals better than Loma's 1 L record sells to casuals.

        Everything is on the side of Bud being bigger, but TR does seem to push Loma more despite all the limitations with pushing a foreign lil guy with an L & who's not in a division or has any fights mainstream fans care about in his future.
        But if Foreign guys are a harder sell doesn't it then mean more resources should be allocated to selling them as opposed to the guy who is the easier sell?

        Like I'm saying if Loma is harder to sell then obviously more effort has to be put into promoting him otherwise how will he get noticed?

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        • Ake-Dawg
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          #134
          Originally posted by genrick
          This guy has penchant for playing the race card.
          Crawford has been getting an average of more than $1 mil paycheck
          fighting bums like Lundy, Jean, Molina, etc., long before Loma
          got his first $1 mil paycheck.
          Arum has protected Crawford like he is his grandson.
          Even left HBO because of him.
          (HBO wanted Matthysse, Pac, for Bud, and Arum said no.)
          And here is this Spence guy saying these ****** things.
          Exacly how did Spence bring race into the conversation?

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          • BoxingIsGreat
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            #135
            Originally posted by Oldskoolg
            It’s clearly coded lingo when coming from white nationalists. Whenever they say “racist”, “race baiting”, “ldbc” etc etc what they really are doing is using the n word. That’s why such people applauded bob arum for making it a race issue but jump all over Spence for not even mentioning race
            I'd say they are about even. I mean what Arum said about Haymon and Spence's response here. Make the fights and keep race out of it.

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            • NotaPachugger
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              #136
              Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
              Why try and spin race or racism into this. His points were reasonable even if you disagree.

              It's almost like you're saying "ignore what he said" he is a racist.
              Arum screws all races . This is why GODLY and Mikey left Top Rank. Pacquiao was ****** to resign a second time but not a third time. Crawford just signed with wrong promoter

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              • Ake-Dawg
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                #137
                Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
                But if Foreign guys are a harder sell doesn't it then mean more resources should be allocated to selling them as opposed to the guy who is the easier sell?

                Like I'm saying if Loma is harder to sell then obviously more effort has to be put into promoting him otherwise how will he get noticed?
                You're right. But promoting Loma shouldn't take away from promoting Crawford and the build up to Crawford Khan did just that.

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                • satiev1
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                  #138
                  LMAO. Who would have thought spence using money to avoid a fight. If this was thurman he would glady take 50/50.

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                  • WhatDisButtonDo
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                    Lomachenko is better fighter and Arum also has/had better inhouse fights for him.

                    Lomachenko has bigger potential than Crawford.
                    Lomachenko flat out admits that Crawford is p4p number 1 and a better fighter...I don't get you guys.

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                    • BoxHec
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                      Lomachenko is better fighter and Arum also has/had better inhouse fights for him.

                      Lomachenko has bigger potential than Crawford.
                      That's why Loma **** his pants when they mentioned him to face Crawford at 140 LOL! Crawford his into a hot division with Spence, Pac, Thurman, Danny Garcia, Porter, Brook etc, a lot a PPV here, when Loma well.. and Arum is Arum, he love white boys.. Loma an amazing boxer but the day he will fight a great black American boxer it will be over for him (remember the unbeatable Kovaleva? LOL!) .. and Loma even ducked Mikey Garcia at 130 and also Pacquiao at 135... Loma, his team and his fans don't want him to take risk, he was exposed two time by B-class world champ, imagine against a real great boxer same size or bigger than him, KO or TKO to coming... , all that BS from Loma, his team and his fans make me laugh

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