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Originally posted by DreamFighter View Poston so it goes on, its always the other guy...and yet the other guy is more established than GGG, almost everytime...and the pattern continued ALL OF THIS TIME that its GGG NOT fighting anyone until recently.
Someday you will see that you are turning the facts upside down. not today.
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Originally posted by TonyGe View PostWhen Canelo won and the WBC tried to get him to fight Golovkin he vacated and fought Smith. He fought Smith for two reasons. One, to avoid Golovkin. .
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Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Postno its not always the other guy. If you've followed this thread long enough, you'd know that I said ggg is to blame for fights with Ward and Lara not happening. But when it comes to the above mentioned fighters, they were not eager to face ggg at all. If you pay someone step aside money (Cotto) , you don't want to face them. If you drop a belt when said fighter becomes your mandatory (Canelo) , you don't want to fight them. If you decline or back out of fair deals to face a fighter (froch and Eubank jr), you're not eager to face them. If you and or your promotor say you're not ready to face a certain fighter yet (Saunders and Martinez) , you're not eager to face that fighter. Not very tough to comprehend when you're a boxing fan and can assess things rationally. The fans who can't see that are ones who obsessively love or hate another fighter to the point that they make excuses for ducks or avoidance.
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Originally posted by DreamFighter View Postand yet they all have no problem facing the top names.
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Originally posted by TonyGe View PostOh yeah. Here are the facts. The WBC a Mexican organization wanted the Cotto Canelo fight. It was a natural because of the reputations of the fighters and the Mexico/ Puerto Rican rivalry. Cotto offered Golovkin a step aside and he accepted partially because of the urging of the WBC. The winner was to fight Golovkin. Cotto did not pay his sanctioning fees got stripped of his title and speculated in the press about not paying Golovkin his step aside. When Canelo won and the WBC tried to get him to fight Golovkin he vacated and fought Smith. He fought Smith for two reasons. One, to avoid Golovkin. Two, to prove to his ******ed fans that he was just a JM by actually making the JM limit but it had to be against a guy he knew he could beat. There was a lot of flak at the time about Canelo playing games with weight. Both of them stabbed the WBC in the back. Cotto even considered screwing Golovkin out of his money. They are both self centered jerks.
Canelo fighting at 155 (1 pound a over 154) does not make him a MIDDLEWEIGHT.
Even if you want to say - "ya, dawg, 155-160 is Middleweight duh hurrdurr".
Then why didnt Borat take the fight at 155 - MIDDLWEIGHT.
Borat says "I don't do catchweights"...demands Canelo/Cotto at 160 (not the A side so not sure how he thinks he can dictate terms)...demands Brook make 160 and rejects request for 157 CW.
Borat then demands Ward make 164 for a fight despite calling out Froch and JCC Jr. at 168...
Now Borat fights the 400th ranked MW at...a SMW catchweight
Damn. Being a Borat fan hurts XD XD XD
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Originally posted by AKAcronym View PostI must've missed when the definition of whooping somebodys ass got changed.
First fight was probably 7-5 Borat, but 6-6 was reasonable. Borat won the event and battle though
Second fight was probably 7-5 Ca$hnelo, but 6-6 was possible. Ca$hnelo literally whooped GGG into a 9 month vacation and definitely won the battle.
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Originally posted by Jab jab boom View PostSaunders nor Eubank Jr have faced all of the top names and as far as the other names, please tell me who they've faced that was a bigger threat to hurt/stop them than GGG?? As good as cotto's, canelos and Martinez resume was, who have any of them faced that possessed the size, power, and ability to take a punch that he did?
You're really stretching..like a GGG fan does to mens assholes
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Originally posted by Bjl12 View PostCotto was never a real MW and Canelo only recently became a MW. Sergio was on his way out when GGG became relevant.
You're really stretching..like a GGG fan does to mens assholes
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