Comments Thread For: Team Luis Ortiz Reject Hearn's "Lowball Offer" To Face Joshua

[Ake-Dawg]

Completely agree

This protecting your 0 is nonsense

We need to see the best fight the best

I don't like it, but why wouldn't a fighter protect his zero when fans these days are running around with triangle theories on who would win a fight and deciding not support fighters that aren't from their country or don't look like them.

If only Pacquiao had beaten Mayweather, we wouldn't have to deal with this mess.

[Scipio2009]

5 Mill is way beyond his value. To think otherwise is nothing but a clear agenda. Don't waste your time because nearly everyone is laughing at mad people like you.

I was going by what Hearn said. The 5 Mill number came from Ortiz's side. I however didn't know that so thought Hearn might have offered just the 5 on the basis that Ortiz will probably ask for more if he gets the full 6.5. So Hearn offers 5 and Ortiz asks for more, he then gives him the rest to make him feel like he had his demands met. Simple.

But now we know Hearn offered more than 5 Mill. Ortiz and co were just lying like Wilder and Finkle do all the time. Either way, it's a duck.

Haymon will have to pay Ortiz that kind of money in the Wilder rematch to make it worth his while. And obviously, Wilder will be getting much more. Which means the entire event flopping when it doesn't claw the money back and it actually ends up losing millions. Ha.

Haymon is the master though. Haha.

Jarell Miller got $6.5m for the fight; Ortiz, bringing more value than that, should've gotten at least that.

Asking for $10m was a stupid decision, if that actually happened, but holding out for what Miller was going to get made sense.

You have no proof that Hearn offered more than even the $5m, and the fact you keep saying that you, somehow, "know" that he did, makes you look silly.

If the fight doesn't happen (Andy Ruiz, open to jumping in, now can see that $6.5m was the offer to Miller, $5m was the offer to Ortiz, time is running shorter to save the event, and Hearn doesn't want to simply move ahead with Michael Hunter as the replacement), Ortiz keeps with his work, and likely goes into the Wilder talks for the rematch on PPV; with everyone being in the same camp, whatever the guarantee ends up being, Ortiz will get a fair share of the event (70/30 Wilder isn't unreasonable).

300k+ PPV buys in the US, $3m gate on the fight, whatever the ITV money ends up being, etc and they're likely splitting at least $15m+ off top.

[LacedUp]

A lot of Wilder's idiotic fans were exposed once again.

Now they're coming up with the predictable "I never said that"

[JWHardin]

This is not true, he just contacted most of the viable options to see if they are available and put them on notice...it's in the interview he gave after the failed test.

The "hint" was words from Hunter, thinking he was getting the fight.

[JWHardin]

Who was the promoter that they received word from? Luis Ortiz doesn’t have a promoter.

Dade Promotions and manager Jay Jimenez.

[Sid-Knee]

The point I'm making, you idiot, is that Fury didn't take the deal, Whyte didn't take the deal, and neither of them have anything to do with Al Haymon or PBC! All you talk about is Al Haymon and the PBC! Obviously, Hearn and Joshua just have problems getting a deal done, and that's hurting Joshua! Obviously Wilder doesn't have that problem! He's already faced Ortiz and Fury, and will probably face Whyte in 2019!

The point you were making you idiot was Hearn hadn't managed to get Wilder, Fury, Ortiz and Whyte into the ring with AJ. Go back and read what you posted, moron.

AJ couldn't even fight Fury for reasons I mentioned. He couldn't fight with not being in the top 15 for any of the titles.

Whyte asked for 40% like the others were getting plus a rematch clause his way. If he won he wanted most of the money in the rematch. Never has this been done in history, but you want to blame Hearn and AJ for these cowards who refuse to fight unless it's an extreme contract? Whyte is nothing more than a contender. It would be a voluntary defence. GTFOH with you going to extremes to protect these deranged morons who are terrified of the truth.

The nobody Wilder turned down 100 Mill even though he does not generate any money unless Fury or AJ are in the opposite corner. He also got an extreme contract that has never before been done in history with him getting 40% against a huge A side fighter with a rematch clause his way with the fight being on US soil. All these concessions from AJ and Hearn and not a single one from the coward Deontay. Yet you blame AJ and Hearn? You're a biased mentalist that will see it the way of the opponent no matter what in order to smear AJ and Hearn because you're a bitter, crazy little man who can't bare to see them on top. F3ck off weirdo.

Ortiz turned down 7 Mill even though his biggest pay is 500K. Hearn and AJ are going to extremes to get these frauds into the ring and giving them contracts beyond anything done in history. They still turn them down coming out with crazy shlt saying. "They're lowballing us" which is utter madness. So get the f3ck out of here you bitter little troll who has delusions and hate beyond mental illness.

Freak!!!!

[Sid-Knee]

So Martin's value was based on the belt he had that Joshua wanted/needed. It was NOT based on what he generated. You have now proven yourself to be wrong. Good day.

It was AJ's first world title fight. He's a much bigger star now with 3 world titles. Stop trying to justify the coward that is Wilder and co.

Just face it. You and most Americans are deluded cowards who are beyond mental illness. Get f3cking help.

[Sid-Knee]

Leverage comes from having something of value genius. You guys getting real childish. The mf was wrong and here you come in like captain underpants.

Real talk, do British fans feel small that they get upset when other fans don't swing from AJ nuts.

You were level until Whyte fumbled the AJ fight man. What happened?

What value does Ortiz have? He doesn't have any value. Other than in the heads of the biased and mentally ill who try to justify the unjustifiable.

Please leave this place and never return. You people are beyond damaged at this point. All sanity is broken when you freaks are around.

[Sid-Knee]

Jarell Miller got $6.5m for the fight; Ortiz, bringing more value than that, should've gotten at least that.

Asking for $10m was a stupid decision, if that actually happened, but holding out for what Miller was going to get made sense.

You have no proof that Hearn offered more than even the $5m, and the fact you keep saying that you, somehow, "know" that he did, makes you look silly.

If the fight doesn't happen (Andy Ruiz, open to jumping in, now can see that $6.5m was the offer to Miller, $5m was the offer to Ortiz, time is running shorter to save the event, and Hearn doesn't want to simply move ahead with Michael Hunter as the replacement), Ortiz keeps with his work, and likely goes into the Wilder talks for the rematch on PPV; with everyone being in the same camp, whatever the guarantee ends up being, Ortiz will get a fair share of the event (70/30 Wilder isn't unreasonable).

300k+ PPV buys in the US, $3m gate on the fight, whatever the ITV money ends up being, etc and they're likely splitting at least $15m+ off top.

The first offer was over 7 Mill. The 5 Mill was what would have been left over for Ortiz after the promoter had got his cut.

Hearn said he's going to expose all the lies about it only being 5 Mill outright. Now Ortiz and his team are scrambling for all the excuses they can get in order to protect Ortiz and his non existent reputation.

You have no proof Hearn only offered 5 Mill. But keep making deranged excuses like you always do.

[Scipio2009]

The first offer was over 7 Mill. The 5 Mill was what would have been left over for Ortiz after the promoter had got his cut.

Hearn said he's going to expose all the lies about it only being 5 Mill outright. Now Ortiz and his team are scrambling for all the excuses they can get in order to protect Ortiz and his non existent reputation.

You have no proof Hearn only offered 5 Mill. But keep making deranged excuses like you always do.

We'll see the proof if it ever actually gets put out; your track record doesn't bode all that well.