Comments Thread For: Team Luis Ortiz Reject Hearn's "Lowball Offer" To Face Joshua

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Isn't Whyte the WBO #1 contender? Anyway, you're hate has blinded you! AJ and Hearn have failed to fight Wilder, Fury, Ortiz again, and the rematch with Whyte didn't get done! Wilder has managed to fight Ortiz and Fury! Don't blame Deontay or Haymon for MatchRoom's woes! Michael Hunter left the PBC, signed with MatchRoom, wants Joshua, and he's been training! Give him the shot, and stop crying!

Whyte is the number 1. But not yet the mandatory.

You think Whyte was worth 40%, a rematch clause, and most of the money against a huge A side and seller if he won the first fight? Can you tell me which star in boxing history gave anything like this before to just a contender?

When could AJ fight Fury? Give me time and date.

Wilder was offered a 100 Mill contract that the delusional coward turned down. He likes bums or fighters who aren't ready to play tough guy to.

Ortiz wants 10 Mill even though the liar has also been exposed after saying he'd fight for anything he was offered. He was offered 10x his biggest payday. He's also a cheat and a delusional coward.

Matchroom are doing everything in their power to get all the cowards into the ring against the real champ. But they all want to run after mouthing off like paper tough guys. Must be why you like and support them so much.

I'm not the hater who sees things that are not there just to hate and smear like you do. You were embarrassed over that piece and looked like a right loony. You looked like that, because you are like that.

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Because it's 5 Mill and the same under the counter cheque that Haymon gives his guys.

The 5 million Hearn is offering is 5 million flat. There's no other check.

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There are simpletons that believe that a fighters worth is only based on how many fans attended his last fight or how much his highest purse was. You're not one of those simpletons. Your posts indicate tou realize that a fighters worth or value in a fight depends on what they bring to the event. That could mean fans, a belt that a fighter wants, a certain match up or challenge, or an opportunity to settle a rivalry or beef.

A fighters worth is based on beef, a certain challenge or match up, or a belt?

None of those things come into it when money is involved. It's all about what you generate. And Ortiz doesn't generate anything languishing on small time undercards. He hasn't even been main event material. And he's fighting bums that do absolutely nothing for him while getting a pittance. You would have thought Haymon would be able to provide decent money and opponents considering he's the supposed "Master" in the game. But no, just worthless garbage.

Hearn is going back with another offer. I think Hearn didn't want to offer the full 6.5 in case Ortiz held out for more. So when he goes back to the table, he can offer the 6.5 and have Ortiz feel as though he has some kind of victory. Then he can get his beating like everyone else does and f3ck off with all the charity money he was given. Then we'll hear the "Boogyman" would have beaten AJ had he had a full training camp even though he had pretty much the same amount of time he did with Wilder. That or Wilder ruined him. Snore.

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You were saying?

Miller allowed Hearn to lie about what he was getting?

Oh, the less than 6.5?

Hearn is going back to the table to give another offer. Had he offered 6.5 from the off, Ortiz would have asked for more. This way, Ortiz can feel as though he's got some kind of victory when Hearn gives him the full 6.5.

Anything to say about the lies of Ortiz who said he'd fight for pretty much anything AJ and Hearn would offer? That not part of your script in the AJ hate? OK, we'll pretend that never happened shall we. It's our little secret. You get back to bashing AJ and Hearn with more lies that aren't true but forgetting about lies that are actually exposed like you always do.

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Opponents change with the value changing accordingly.

Jarrell Miller was getting $6.5m for the fight, and Luis Ortiz is objectively worth more than Miller, nevermind on short notice.

But Ortiz has no value. If so, tell me what it is? Don't tell me... Fighting on small time undercards for a pittance with no one giving a shlt about you fighting yet another bum where you look like shlt? Is that the kind of value you're talking about? Yeah, we over here don't consider garbage to be of any value. Sorry.

Who cares what Miller was being paid? Does that mean from here on out AJ has to pay everyone 6.5 minimum?

No, that's just your crazy brain at work. Floyd was paid less than Gatti and De La Hoya. That too didn't set the bar for the rest of his career. That would be insane to think. Unless of course you just hate and hate for no reason and want to twist things in a crazy manner. But those people are creepy weirdos you can see a mile off. You're not one of those are you?

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Jarell Miller has yet to main event a ShoBox card, nevermind earn any real money, yet his offer was for $6.5m.

What the **** are you talking about?

Miller strong armed them because AJ was being ducked and needed an opponent. It wasn't his true worth. But he was undefeated and American that would help sell the event in New York. He was also prime unlike Ortiz.

And Miller was being paid more than Ortiz. He wasn't getting a few hundred grand that's for sure. No one does on DAZN. They get paid very well.

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The 5 million Hearn is offering is 5 million flat. There's no other check.

That's where you're wrong. What is put down as official isn't actually official. There's special cheques flying around all over the place.

Is that not right?

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Miller allowed Hearn to lie about what he was getting?

Oh, the less than 6.5?

Hearn is going back to the table to give another offer. Had he offered 6.5 from the off, Ortiz would have asked for more. This way, Ortiz can feel as though he's got some kind of victory when Hearn gives him the full 6.5.

Anything to say about the lies of Ortiz who said he'd fight for pretty much anything AJ and Hearn would offer? That not part of your script in the AJ hate? OK, we'll pretend that never happened shall we. It's our little secret. You get back to bashing AJ and Hearn with more lies that aren't true but forgetting about lies that are actually exposed like you always do.

Lomachenko said he would fight for free too, yet you know damn well that his management wouldn't stand for that.

Hilarious that you can't admit that you ****ed up, lol.

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Lomachenko said he would fight for free too, yet you know damn well that his management wouldn't stand for that.

Hilarious that you can't admit that you ****ed up, lol.

So his management have turned down life changing money for Ortiz? But they accepted 500K for the Wilder fight? Yeah, they are full of shlt. Just like Ortiz is.

Have I not explained what Eddie was doing with offering the 5 Mill? I made it very clear.

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That's where you're wrong. What is put down as official isn't actually official.

If Hearn is offering 5 million, 5 million isn't what will be put down as official. The filed purse would likely be 2 million or so.