What's David Allen's Ceiling?

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  • Eff Pandas
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    What's David Allen's Ceiling?

    After this weekend's impressive W over Lucas Browne, that for me stole the show of all the fights on Saturday, I'm curious what people think of Allen's future in boxing with Hearn kinda working on his behalf to find him solid, but favorable-ish matchups.

    Eddie even suggested Allen is potentially 2 fights from fighting Joshua if sh^t swings Allen's way with a proposed next fight with Price or Chisora & potentially a fight with Povetkin if he wins the fight over Price/Chisora & then potentially a title fight vs Joshua is he beats Povetkin. That sounded insane to me, but I think Price & Chisora are winnable fights for Allen & Povetkin is getting older so who knows when he gets old on fight night.

    Who's the best guy you see Allen beating? Who's the best guy who'd favor Allen to beat?

    Has he reached his ceiling with this W?

    Can he become a top ten guy?

    Can he get a title fight with Joshua, Wilder or some future title holder at some point?

    Can he win a belt?
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    David Allen will undoubtedly be world champion at some point. It’s simply a matter of times.

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    • LacedUp
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      Lower british level at best.

      He could possibly beat David Price, because anyone who can stand on their legs for 4 rounds can these days. But he wouldn't be able to beat Gorman, H Fury, Dubois or Joyce - the other british level heavyweights.

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        Am I missing something? Why are we considering Lucas Browne a good scalp?

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          Originally posted by LacedUp
          Lower british level at best.

          He could possibly beat David Price, because anyone who can stand on their legs for 4 rounds can these days. But he wouldn't be able to beat Gorman, H Fury, Dubois or Joyce - the other british level heavyweights.
          Still not sold on Hugie. It’s like He’s got Tyson’s slickness but nobody told him he has to throw punches too.

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            I'm guessing this is half-trolling? He's pretty bad. The fans hyping him must think Ortiz is a god because Allen looked like a child against him.

            Also, let's not forget Browne's only decent win was about as lucky as luck can get when he got a ko at the end of a fight he was losing BADLY, and we later came to find out he was probably on PEDs during this fight. Brown is pretty awful.

            Allen has some personality though and I've nothing against the guy. He seems cool. Hope he finds great success. From what I've seen though, he's pretty mediocre.

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              #7
              Originally posted by _Rexy_
              Am I missing something? Why are we considering Lucas Browne a good scalp?
              For David Allen a Lucas Browne W is f#cking....I almost wanna say amazing, but thats overselling it somewhat.

              If you'd have suggested to me 6 months ago Allen would have an impressive KO over a guy who not only fought for a title but won a title, before getting stripped or w/e with his PED situation, in 6 months I'd be trying to think about who's a half dead ex-title challenger who's still around more than thinking that was a reasonable thing that could happen right off.

              Guy is the ultimate Dad Boxer ffs. Boxrec rankings are obviously flawed, but right now he's #22 in the world at HW. Thats crazy for the level I see him residing at & capable of.

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                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                For David Allen a Lucas Browne W is f#cking....I almost wanna say amazing, but thats overselling it somewhat.

                If you'd have suggested to me 6 months ago Allen would have an impressive KO over a guy who not only fought for a title but won a title, before getting stripped or w/e with his PED situation, in 6 months I'd be trying to think about who's a half dead ex-title challenger who's still around more than thinking that was a reasonable thing that could happen right off.

                Guy is the ultimate Dad Boxer ffs. Boxrec rankings are obviously flawed, but right now he's #22 in the world at HW. Thats crazy for the level I see him residing at & capable of.
                He was on PED’s and got a lucky KO for the WBA REGULAR belt lol. But at least we agree that the boxrec rankings are garbage.

                I’ve always thought Browne was garbage, but I think it looks really bad on Whyte that Browne was actually in shape this time and got destroyed by Dave ****ing Allen.

                I say Allen/Helinus next. And when Whyte loses to Rivas we get Whyte/Allen II the battle of Eddies hype jobs

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                  Originally posted by _Rexy_
                  Still not sold on Hugie. It’s like He’s got Tyson’s slickness but nobody told him he has to throw punches too.
                  There's no way Allen could beat Hughie Fury, at all. He'd get schooled.

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                    Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                    I'm guessing this is half-trolling? He's pretty bad. The fans hyping him must think Ortiz is a god because Allen looked like a child against him.

                    Also, let's not forget Browne's only decent win was about as lucky as luck can get when he got a ko at the end of a fight he was losing BADLY, and we later came to find out he was probably on PEDs during this fight. Brown is pretty awful.

                    Allen has some personality though and I've nothing against the guy. He seems cool. Hope he finds great success. From what I've seen though, he's pretty mediocre.
                    Half trolling maybe, I can't argue with you there, but I'm legit curious how far this every man type guy can go.

                    He was a fun guy who I kept track of for awhile, but I never thought his promoter would even be saying sh^t like he's 2 W's from a Joshua fight without a huge smirk on his face while trying to control his desire to laugh.

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