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  • #81
    If Arum is allegedly going to call Haymon about Spence then why start off by being so insulting and disrespectful?

    He's going to be the reason the fight doesn't happen just like he always is. Continuing to be a cancer on the sport.

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    • #82
      Arum is saying this because he knows the media will run with it and half, if not more of the fans believe it.

      You can already see on here Spence gets most of the blame for the fight not happening. At least Arum didn't blame Spence specifically but was quick to blame Haymon.

      It's always easy to bring race into the conversation when you have no other argument to make.

      You see it on this site every day.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by mcdonalds View Post
        Opening Odds mean a lot when determining credible matchups and no im not talking about the danny fight.

        Just look at all the top matchups for PBC in 2018/19, then compare it to top rank.

        NO COMPARISON
        At welter weight maybe Jr Middle. And why is that? If Haymon would allow his best in with Crawford would it be competitive enough for you? It would for me, it would be for Arum, it would for Crawford and Lomachanko both.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post
          Basically what they can tell is if someone is “European ***ish”....ie ashki****s and to a lesser degree sephardics. Both groups generally don’t mix outside of their 5th to 6th cousins.....yes ashki****s in particular are all distant cousins. There have been ***s in Europe since the Roman Empire era, an ancient Levantine and northern African in origin but Semitic in nature. Mostly the ashki****s and sepharics are of european blood...Roman, Slavic, Greek, Iberian etc due to the long history of being in Europe. ***ish groups like the Beta, Bene, Mizrahim, the Igbo, the Lemba etc wont show as “european ***” in those dna packs....they’ll show as the same a surprise the people around them until there is more dna marker sampling. I’m a *** but most of my dna markers are Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, and Scandinavian due to british ***s having a different experience than the polish, the Spanish, Moroccan, Belorussian etc ***s
          Nice, but you left out the part about the Spanish Inquisition. Burnings at the stake and ****** ***s. Then Spain expelled the ***s in 1492. Cristopher Columbus, a ***, and the Conquistadors. Mostly Sephardic ***s, but by some accounts, all of them were ***s, killing indians and interbreading in Latin America and so on.

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          • #85
            Boxing remains the only sport that uses racism to promote fight. Many fans are racist and what Arum just did is racist in itself

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            • #86
              Boxing remains the only sport that uses racism to promote fight. Many fans are racist and what Arum just did is racist in itself..

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              • #87
                Originally posted by HarvardBlue View Post
                Arum is saying this because he knows the media will run with it and half, if not more of the fans believe it.

                You can already see on here Spence gets most of the blame for the fight not happening. At least Arum didn't blame Spence specifically but was quick to blame Haymon.

                It's always easy to bring race into the conversation when you have no other argument to make.

                You see it on this site every day.
                When you offer a guy more money than he has ever earned and he instead takes half the amount to fight on the same day because Al said so then yes, Haymon is a problem.

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                • #88
                  You don't think DBN is racist? Where have you been.

                  The point Arum is making is that Haymon uses the race card to influence fighters and that's because he does... and everyone knows it.


                  Originally posted by Oshio View Post
                  Boxing remains the only sport that uses racism to promote fight. Many fans are racist and what Arum just did is racist in itself..

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                  • #89
                    I would hope that's not Haymon's game, putting racial hate into his fighters like some irresponsible parents do with their children. I mean wtf are we supposed to do about it. We don't know so we can't assume this. Arum has to approach this with more civility. This just shows me the bad blood runs deep and there's probably more to this beef than we're aware of.

                    edit: that said, Haymon has tried to monopolize boxing with pbc, but I'm sure Arum would like to do this himself if he had gotten a ridiculous sum of money from someone as well. I think that's the gripe. There's clearly a script for pbc events as well where they won't mention threatening non-pbc guys, like they don't exist. That's all fine to call out and call bullsh#t on, but the racial stuff....
                    Last edited by SCEN3RY; 04-21-2019, 03:50 PM.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by AdonisCreed View Post
                      Ooooooohhhhhh boy! Arum turned this into a white and black situation! Just when you think everything is cool, calm and normal WHAM!! Race comes in to play and everyone gets pissed off lol
                      Arum is correct in calling Haymon a scammer. Haymon lacks transparency to the media and fans. Why hide? Because that's what scammers do. It's sad that a 86 year old shows more enthusiasm & energy to make fan friendly fights than a corrupt non-transparent self serving promoter like Haymon...

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