Comments Thread For: Teofimo Lopez Crushes Edis Tatli in Fifth With Body Shot

[Jsmooth9876]

Only way they fight is if Lopez gets the vacant WBC that Mikey will be dropping. No point in Top Rank risking a future star in Lopez at this point against one of the top guys in the sport when they will be able to milk him for years to come at 140 against more low level competition.

Ramirez vs Lopez will be his first big fight then maybe he gets Taylor or Prograis also. He can be a star at 140 and maybe 147 in a couple years for TR, that's why they wont put him in with Lomachenko unless he somehow can get a belt first this summer.

[angkag]

Only way they fight is if Lopez gets the vacant WBC that Mikey will be dropping. No point in Top Rank risking a future star in Lopez at this point against one of the top guys in the sport when they will be able to milk him for years to come at 140 against more low level competition.

Ramirez vs Lopez will be his first big fight then maybe he gets Taylor or Prograis also. He can be a star at 140 and maybe 147 in a couple years for TR, that's why they wont put him in with Lomachenko unless he somehow can get a belt first this summer.

Teo vs Verdejo would make sense right now. I've got the feeling Bob has given up on Verdejo and might just be in the mood to feed him to Teo and be done with him.

Down the road, Teo vs Prograis would be a great style match-up, and we would likely get to see how Teo reacts when he gets hit by something heavy.

[SugarRaRobinson]

Exposed by Loma, yes. I have my judgments of fighters going in, and if they look different than they have previously, good or bad, I usually attribute that difference to the opposition they are facing. Going into that fight many people were liking Walters and I think they had reason to like him.

Same thing in the Rigo fight. Obviously the weight was an issue there but still Loma made that look incredibly easy against a guy who has been nothing but dominant in his entire career. I was impressed. I really felt going in Rigo had a 50/50 chance, and it seemed most posters felt the same way, and it was completely one-sided. Going into that fight I don't think anyone expected that level of dominance.

The Pedraza and Linares wins are impressive in different ways - came at a higher weight against good fighters etc. And the Linares win especially showed a lot of toughness, heart and adaptability by Loma to find a way to get the stoppage in a close fight (I think I had it even at 5-4 for Loma at the stoppage).

I even give him credit for the Martinez Sosa and Crolla wins in the sense that he was very impressive against those guys and hardly lost one second of any of those fights, stopping all of them when guys like Salido, Walters and Linares couldn't. Not exactly wins to overhype but I always like it when a guy does what he is supposed to do and more going into a fight.

Crawford tonight would be a good example of that, same with what he did against Horn and Postol. Against Benevidez it would be the opposite. Spence was/is high on my pfp list for the same reason - he always excels in there, except imo against Mikey, I personally was disappointed that he couldn't get the stoppage.

Not every fight is going to be Hagler Hearns, but if you are easily running through good fighters (and in Loma's case some have been better than good) I think that is impressive.

I do agree that it is somewhat impressive to easily run through guys like ggg did, and like Loma is doing. I’ve never hated on ggg or Loma. I’m actually a fan of Loma.

But I do hold special fighters like Loma/ggg to higher standards where I can no longer accept them continuously fighting pedestrian or less than pedestrian fighters.

GGG was knocking out guys who weren’t pushovers, but weren’t all that good either. Guys like Stevens, and Rosado.
So when Ward offered the fight at 168, I thought he’d jump at it, but didn’t want it instead.

When fighters like ggg and Loma finally get the opportunity to fight a career defining fight, they should jump at the opportunity to test their skill set, because their skill sets r rarely really tested.

So for me, Russell is Loma’s only career defining fight with no excuses and no handicaps.

[STREET CLEANER]

Lopez has to step it up and I am not talking about fighting Gamboa. One of the top then LW or a former champ.

It becomes a different ballgame when the fighters at the next level have better chins, skills and determination.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

I do agree that it is somewhat impressive to easily run through guys like ggg did, and like Loma is doing. I’ve never hated on ggg or Loma. I’m actually a fan of Loma.

But I do hold special fighters like Loma/ggg to higher standards where I can no longer accept them continuously fighting pedestrian or less than pedestrian fighters.

GGG was knocking out guys who weren’t pushovers, but weren’t all that good either. Guys like Stevens, and Rosado.
So when Ward offered the fight at 168, I thought he’d jump at it, but didn’t want it instead.

When fighters like ggg and Loma finally get the opportunity to fight a career defining fight, they should jump at the opportunity to test their skill set, because their skill sets r rarely really tested.

So for me, Russell is Loma’s only career defining fight with no excuses and no handicaps.

You cant blame someone for not having good fights on their resume if one, no one wants to fight them, and two, there is no one to fight.

You're welcome to list of the top 10 at 130 and 135 and tell me which fights are exactly "exciting". Very few. Excuses have already been pointed out by another poster.

Also, the only legacy match remotely close to him is Pacman but hes not taking that fight and rightfully so.

You cant test SKILLS when WEIGHT is just as big of a factor.

Can you already not hear the excuses? Pacs too old (rigo was 37). Loma drained pac. Pac just got his retirement check. Just passing the torch.

[SugarRaRobinson]

You guys call rigo and Walters pretenders now but the music was pretty much different before Loma made them look like complete bums.

All the anti Loma parrots called for a Walters and a rigo fights just like they doing now with teo.

Teo will be rookie who beat nobody when he get schooled by Loma.

Walters and rigo were undefeated, so what, rigo had to move 8 pounds from his natural first division 122? Is that an excuse for looking like an utter bum and quitting? 8 pounds at 130 versus a natural 126 pounder in Loma?

Aren't great fighters supposed to be able to move up just 8 pounds north?

Walters moped the floor with donnaire and Vic, he's far from a bum and the fight was intriguing at first, now," but he didn't fight for 11 months doe", his dog died doe, what will be the next excuse?

You guys are the pretenders as so called boxing fans...for bashing one the most respectable record in boxing.
Nobody really hold better wins than Loma in boxing except PAC and nelo, maybe Bud...his record is clearly top 5 in boxing.
Loma is 9-1 versus world champions, and a solid bunch were undefeated.

GGG and Loma have had pretty much different careers and opposition, bad comparison, still you had issues with them, that's expected.

Period

Look, imma need u to get ur panties out of the bunch their in and accept at least SOME criticism coming Lomas way, as he has earned some of it.

While Walters was a formidable fighter, I just don’t believe he had any intentions of trying to win that fight. Who in their right mind would go straight into a Loma fight after taking a year off, quit in the early rounds and never come back ?

If u can give me an answer for that then I will give the win proper credence, otherwise let’s leave it in the past.

Rigo moving up in the twilight of his career 8 pounds is a huge deal as fighters do that gradually in the early to middle stages of their careers, not usually the end.

I like Loma too, but just not enough to stay satiated with his perpetual diet of Can-Crushing as of late. That’s how I separate Fans from Fanboys. If u constantly justify your favorite fighters Can-Crushing all the time, then u should check ur panties cause they’re probably wet.

I like Danny Garcia too, but have been VERY critical of his Can-Crushing prior to Thurman.

[SugarRaRobinson]

You cant blame someone for not having good fights on their resume if one, no one wants to fight them, and two, there is no one to fight.

You're welcome to list of the top 10 at 130 and 135 and tell me which fights are exactly "exciting". Very few. Excuses have already been pointed out by another poster.

Also, the only legacy match remotely close to him is Pacman but hes not taking that fight and rightfully so.

You cant test SKILLS when WEIGHT is just as big of a factor.

Can you already not hear the excuses? Pacs too old (rigo was 37). Loma drained pac. Pac just got his retirement check. Just passing the torch.

No one wanting to fight Loma is an old stale myth that has been debunked. Mikey practically begged for the fight prior to moving up for Spence, but his request fell on deaf ears.

Lopez is begging RIGHT NOW, but will he answer the call ?

Commey is clamoring for the fight once his hand heals, and all three are great fights !

[SugarRaRobinson]

Let me just fill out the rest of the story for you:

Loma beats Mikey: 'Mikey weight drained though and coming off a loss'

Loma beats Teo: 'Loma picked on Teo before he had the experience to beat him'

Loma goes down to 130 for Berchelt: 'Loma ducking Teo and Mikey (if they haven't fought yet)'

Loma stays at 135 for Teo: 'Loma ducking Berchelt'

I think you've already decided Loma will get no credit whatever happens next.

^^^Finally a fanboy who literally has no issues laying out the litany of excuses he holds dear, as to why Loma shouldn’t fight Lopez or anyone else with a pulse for that matter (because he’ll get no credit).

Special thx to u Sir !

[R-Hand Southpaw]

No one wanting to fight Loma is an old stale myth that has been debunked. Mikey practically begged for the fight prior to moving up for Spence, but his request fell on deaf ears.

Lopez is begging RIGHT NOW, but will he answer the call ?

Commey is clamoring for the fight once his hand heals, and all three are great fights !

Mikey never begged for the Lomachenko fight. Not once. Youre very welcome to provided the sources of Mikey begging for the fight ���������� I on the other hand already know they don't exist so please entertain me.

It's kinda funny how Lomachenko was still at 130 in December 2017 and fought Linares for the WBA at 135 in May 2018 for the first time at 135 and then Pedraza for the WBO in November 2018 after injury.

Yet at the same time. Mikey fought Easter in the summer, July I believe,
and then had Spence lined up BEFORE Lomacheno vs Pedraza happened in November. Mikey drops the IBF so he doesnt have to face Commey and then negotiates with Spence at the end of October right?

And he wants the fight with Lomachenko right??? Lomachenko was at 135 not even 6 months before Mikey runs. The guy literally told Loma, if you want me, I'm at 135 ��

Everyone including myself said, if he goes up to 147 hes not coming down to 135. And what is the speculation now? He isnt coming back to 135.

Its funny too because the whole time before the fight was finalized Robert, his very own brother was saying, idk why Mikey wants Spence. Lomachenko is a better option. Lmfao. I would have also concurred sir! But Mikey gets excuses with Spence and not Lomachenko.

If the no one wants to fight Lomachenko myth has been dispelled who what world champs want to fight Lomachenko?

Theres only Commey and whoever will win the vacant 135 WBC strap. And then ito, farmer, and berchelt at 130 if Lomachenko moves down.

How many of these fights arent Crolla fights to you? Lmfao. And yet you think an unproven prospect is better?����

Tank is out ���������� Mayweather, eberlle, and tank all dont want Loma for another few years despite being a champion.

Or are you serious when you think #100 calling out #1 counts as someone who wants to fight ��������

[SugarRaRobinson]

Let me just fill out the rest of the story for you:

Loma beats Mikey: 'Mikey weight drained though and coming off a loss'

Loma beats Teo: 'Loma picked on Teo before he had the experience to beat him'

Loma goes down to 130 for Berchelt: 'Loma ducking Teo and Mikey (if they haven't fought yet)'

Loma stays at 135 for Teo: 'Loma ducking Berchelt'

I think you've already decided Loma will get no credit whatever happens next.

The funniest part about this excuse is that it’s the EXACT same excuse u Loma fanboys used to discredit Mikey.

When Mikey was asking for the fight prior to moving up for Spence u guys was making excuses justifying Loma not fighting him.

But as soon as Mikey got fed up waiting and moved up the rhetoric was:

“He ducked Loma to respectfully get pummeled by Spence because losing to Loma would be disastrous whereas losing to Spence is a win win”

U guys are to be pitied not scorned.