Is Manny still afraid of needles?

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  • TheCell8
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    #31
    Originally posted by Gigantes
    lol manny's been roiding up his whole career but still fighting at a high level.

    marquez hooks up with memo, bulks up and then retires quickly due to bad knees, but he never took anything doe
    If Pacquiao did abuse drugs, like many assume, he would have suffered from at least one of those 3 things I mentioned.

    The fact that he hasn't suffered a serious injury, which is very common for steroid abusers, nor has he taken any testosterone replacement, which is also very common for steroid abusers performing into their 40s.

    and the fact that he's still fighting at a high level at this age without a significant decrease in performance, tells me that he wasn't a steroid abuser.

    I think we have to step back and appreciate the fact that he's one of the greatest athletes in the history of sport.

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    • KillaMane26
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      #32
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      lol wtf are you talking about? Morales, Barrera, Ledwaba, dela hoya, cotto etc etc.

      He went on a crazy streak plus considering he came from 108 or whatever makes it even more insane.
      Nahhh when people bring up KO streak they be referring to when he moved up. Nobody questioned those Kos at the light weights.

      His KO power was overrated. Hatton was the only clean KO at higher weights.
      What was fishy to me was how it seemed like he had a 2nd prime outside his natural weight.

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      • Scipio2009
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        #33
        Originally posted by DaBeastO
        how is PAC still passing tests? if he was cheating he would have been caught long ago Manny Pacquiao is the smartest man in the world. A true mastermind.
        When has Pacquiao had testing during an actual fight camp? And when was the last time that Pacquiao actually hurt someone in a fight? lol

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          #34
          Originally posted by KillaMane26
          Who did he KO besides Hatton/Diaz??? The myth about that KO streak kills me.
          Former minimumweight Manny Pacquiao put that hellacious beating on Miguel Cotto at 145lbs, and every objective voice in the sport said "WTF?!?!".

          Floyd says "**** that, I'm only fighting you when we both get random blood/urine testing" and the vaunted power disappears, lol

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            #35
            Originally posted by TheCell8
            If Pacquiao did abuse drugs, like many assume, he would have suffered from at least one of those 3 things I mentioned.

            The fact that he hasn't suffered a serious injury, which is very common for steroid abusers, nor has he taken any testosterone replacement, which is also very common for steroid abusers performing into their 40s.

            and the fact that he's still fighting at a high level at this age without a significant decrease in performance, tells me that he wasn't a steroid abuser.

            I think we have to step back and appreciate the fact that he's one of the greatest athletes in the history of sport.
            There is lots of PEDs that have nothing to do with Steroids.

            Fact is his behavior for a non user was very strange, he should have said yes to testing instantly, both guys were taking the same tests to prove they are clean fighters in the highest dollar prize fight in history, and Manny balks at PED testing.

            With testing today and somebody coming out with the excuses that Manny put out, he would be keelhauled and declared a PED user.

            In other words, today Mannys BS would not fly period !

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            • LacedUp
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              #36
              Originally posted by Gigantes
              u saying someone is guilty when there's no evidence.

              if you ever do something and the court say's you're guilty even with no evidence i hope you feel the same way you do right now when you accuse someone with no proof
              Actually I said it seems fishy.

              Maybe you need to go to school again.

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              • LacedUp
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                #37
                Originally posted by KillaMane26
                Nahhh when people bring up KO streak they be referring to when he moved up. Nobody questioned those Kos at the light weights.

                His KO power was overrated. Hatton was the only clean KO at higher weights.
                What was fishy to me was how it seemed like he had a 2nd prime outside his natural weight.
                Clean KO or smashing people like they've never been smashed before or since is the same. He fought and cleaned out people much bigger than himself.

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                • LacedUp
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Thraxox
                  Yeah. The only thing I heard from Manny is that, he's not willing to do the blood testing, too close to the fight because he believes he might be drained, because of the Morales fight.

                  I never heard it from his mouth that he was afraid of needles.

                  Eh, another one of those, people where they can't verify a story so they have to make ****** things up.
                  Konz, arum and roach all said the same.

                  Nobody's going to go to the biggest star in the world and ask him directly to take a blood test. come on.

                  This excuse is pure bs.

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                  • LacedUp
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by TheCell8
                    If Pacquiao did abuse drugs, like many assume, he would have suffered from at least one of those 3 things I mentioned.

                    The fact that he hasn't suffered a serious injury, which is very common for steroid abusers, nor has he taken any testosterone replacement, which is also very common for steroid abusers performing into their 40s.

                    and the fact that he's still fighting at a high level at this age without a significant decrease in performance, tells me that he wasn't a steroid abuser.

                    I think we have to step back and appreciate the fact that he's one of the greatest athletes in the history of sport.

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                    • QueensburyRules
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by LacedUp
                      In the light of Jarrell Miller popping steroids into his body like we drink water, I thought about the time Roach kept saying Manny Pacquiao was afraid of needles, and that he loses him for days etc.

                      Remember when they discussed the 12/24 day cut off etc etc?

                      All that stuff seems incredibly fishy right now.
                      It was ***ed up at the time, don't get me wrong. But right now, are we all not a billion percent sure that Pacquiao has been juicing pretty much his whole career?
                      - -Ellerbee wannabe doing TUE 50-0 dirty work, eh?

                      Priceless!

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