Comments Thread For: Hearn on Joshua Foe: I Spoke To 16 Heavyweights in 24 Hours

[Ilpo]

That is factually incorrect lol but think whatever you want. I know it doesn't suit your worldview and you think it is all about poverty and you want to make excuses for people, but you are factually incorrect. I also can't take anyone seriously who thinks that POC are marginalized in every country and basically are starting the race from behind; I think that is a loser's mentality, it is inaccurate, and it can be a self-fulfilling prophecy so I have 0 interest in hearing that argument.

"The overall rate of firearm assault was 5.0 times higher (95% confidence interval [CI] = 4.5, 5.6) for Black people compared with White people. Firearm assault rates were higher among Black people across all victim residence incomes. Relative risk of firearm assault reached 15.8 times higher (95% CI = 10.7, 23.2) for Black residents in the highest-income block groups when compared with high-income White individuals. Firearm assault events tended to occur in low-income areas and were concentrated in several “hot spot” locations with high proportions of Black residents.

Conclusions. Profound disparity in exposure to firearm violence by race and place exists in Philadelphia. Black people were substantially more likely than White people to sustain firearm assault, regardless of neighborhood income."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5296702/

There are 100 more studies and many more statistics which prove this point.

An honorable man, when presented with evidence contrary to his argument, would change his mind and tip his cap to the person with whom he was debating. You seem to be debating with your conclusion in mind, regardless of what the facts show. So I'm sure you will try and double down on what you were saying despite you being factually wrong.

Hope you can be intellectually honest with yourself. Be well.

You actually said that this is the case in every country in the world, and then you post a article/study about Philly Academicly extremely well done, sir.

Ok, income levels/CRIMErates are married, not death by weapons (in Philly lol). Happy? And you reaaaally think that immigrants from third world countries, sosio economicly lower income areas, people who do not speak the language of their new countries, people from war torn countries DO NOT start from behind? There are literally no valid studies that can deny these points. And common sense should also tell you these things.

But now we are discussing completely different subject. Lets forget the assaults done by black men in america (do you really think that immigrants from third world countries are not starting from behind?) and talk about the gun laws? Or did you choke already?

Ive noticed that people who offer lazy correlations to their points usually start shifting the conversation to other points when in trouble. And that is what you have done. Either Im talking with a youngster or your thinking has been clouded by your political views.

Im not here trying to argue in a nasty way, I just came to correct few of your not-so-well thought arguments before.

I hope you grow as a person and start studying things in the big scheme of things. Good luck, sir!

[Shadoww702]

Every p4p fighter has atleast a small amount of fans that are cultish in their following of the fighter. Over the years ive hated hardcore Manny fans, Floyd fans, S.O.G fans, Canelo fans etc.. And they are usually the loudest ones out there. Not to say I havent fallen to that gategory at times

GGG has his own cult. I love his skills, though. But he is not the monster he was 5-10 years ago.

Agree 100% Im a huge Canelo fan and will admit I dont even think I gave him 1 round against Floyd??

Canelo/ggg 1 I scored 7/5 GGG
2 scored 7/5 Canelo.

I try to put my love of Boxing before my like of boxers.

[Boxing_1013]

You actually said that this is the case in every country in the world, and then you post a article/study about Philly Academicly extremely well done, sir.

Ok, income levels/CRIMErates are married, not death by weapons (in Philly lol). Happy? And you reaaaally think that immigrants from third world countries, sosio economicly lower income areas, people who do not speak the language of their new countries, people from war torn countries DO NOT start from behind? There are literally no valid studies that can deny these points. And common sense should also tell you these things.

But now we are discussing completely different subject. Lets forget the assaults done by black men in america (do you really think that immigrants from third world countries are not starting from behind?) and talk about the gun laws? Or did you choke already?

Ive noticed that people who offer lazy correlations to their points usually start shifting the conversation to other points when in trouble. And that is what you have done. Either Im talking with a youngster or your thinking has been clouded by your political views.

Im not here trying to argue in a nasty way, I just came to correct few of your not-so-well thought arguments before.

I hope you grow as a person and start studying things in the big scheme of things. Good luck, sir!

Sorry man I just don't think you're really smart enough, and/or intellectually honest enough, to continue having a conversation with. (I highlighted one pretty egregious error you made in this post, and you made the same type of error in previous posts so I know it just wasn't a one-off mistake.)

The whole debate, that you introduced yourself into btw lol, was about gun crime and gun laws in America vs the rest of world. If you aren't intelligent enough to understand that some of my points have been illustrating that demographically non-white, non-Asian groups commit gun crime at a much higher incidence, that is your own issue.

Pointing that out helps to explain why the US has much higher gun violence than other countries. We are one of the most populous nations in the world and we have a very high number of non-white non-Asian people, and that is who commits the majority of the gun crime in the USA, and in every other country in the world also.

These groups again commit crime at a much higher rate regardless of income level. I am sorry if those facts for some reason hurt your feelings but we have to be honest about what is really going on or else we will never truly solve a problem.

Again I am not saying that to pass judgment on any of those groups, but if you are unable to acknowledge the problem then you can't hope to solve the problem. And again your response of 'income levels' has proven to be wrong in every country in the world. Instead of starting with the conclusion in mind a smart man looks at the facts and lets the conclusion flow from there.

You don't seem to really be interested in having a discussion and learning, instead choosing to double down on your original POV when the facts universally say otherwise.

I really don't mean anything rude about this, but I don't think you're really smart enough and/or intellectually honest enough to have a discussion with, and I wish you well!!

[Dan Gleessac]

Yeah sure I did man. If you write like a 5th grader I will think you're as smart as a 5th grader. And I don't care about the analysis of a 5th grader.

Be well Dan the Man!

If you don't care why read and reply?
Strange.

[Kezzer]

Who is the standby guy? They had Takam available last fight on call

He always planned to have Hunter on the undercard, therefore I assume it was him. however with this happening earlier on there is still time to go elsewhere.

[Boxing_1013]

If you don't care why read and reply?
Strange.

? You made a statement saying that spelling doesn't matter, it is a boxing website. I responded to say that spelling and grammar do matter as far as how seriously people will take your opinion.

I was just correcting you/trying to educate you.

[Dan Gleessac]

? You made a statement saying that spelling doesn't matter, it is a boxing website. I responded to say that spelling and grammar do matter as far as how seriously people will take your opinion.

I was just correcting you/trying to educate you.

So you do care.
Thanks bud.