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  • Laligalaliga
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    #201
    Originally posted by Noelanthony
    Exactly, he knows this too.

    I have never in my life said a bad word about Al. On the whole I like what he is doing but if he deprives Ortiz of this opportunity I will really start to question his role as an advisor
    absolutely..... he shouldn't miss this life changing payday.

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    • Motorcity Cobra
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      #202
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      You don't make any sense. You want Ortiz to avoid the fight so you can keep in fantasy land about him being some mystical beast that only Wilder could beat.

      Are you forgetting that Hearn had Ortiz on a multi fight deal already, but let him go because he stunk the place out twice?

      ffs Hearn invited the prince of Monaco to come and watch the next great heavyweight vs a journeyman in Malik Scott, and ended up watching the worst fight he'd ever seen. hahaha
      When was the last time AJ fought a voluntary non champ that wasn't linked to Hearn?

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      • Redgloveman
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        #203
        Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
        Depends on the adverse finding amounts. Only Hearn knows this. Miller is on rotation for Matchroom fights just like any other boxer having had a PED violation yet still fighting. The dark side of industry knows that the pre advanced drug testing days were easier and many stars from previous years didn’t go through what’s going on today, so industry and promoters provide a level of empathy for today’s new gen. If Ortiz is real name for Joshua, which I doubt because I don’t think Haymon wants to give DAZN such business, but it this fight does happen, it just means a more meaningful fight at MSG which was all planned.

        There’s just too much stuff behind the scenes.
        I think it's exactly what it looks like. The simplest solution is generally the right one.

        A friend of mine was telling me about drugs testing these days. Apparently the testing is actually getting very advanced now and capable of finding smaller and smaller traces of banned substances further and further back in time.

        It seems like a bit of a stretch to say that it was all planned, especially (as you mention yourself) since Ortiz stepping up is very much not guaranteed.

        AJ is in a difficult spot now; unless Ortiz fights him he's likely to receive 0 credit for his next opponent

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          #204
          Originally posted by NahMean
          Yea just stay silent, that’s clever.. it proves you want the fight. You Wilder fans already making excuses.. I thought he’s the boogeyman?? The way Wilder fans talk about this guy you’d think even with 1 days notice he’ll KO AJ in 1 round.
          Aj & hearn are the ones that talk but don't walk. If he doesn't fight King Kong then that will show you but of course you'll blame King Kong like you do D.Wilder.

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            #205
            Originally posted by James Hunt
            Hope he fights him and KO's him inside 3rd's. Just to see how Haymon's puppets will try to spin this.
            Spin what? The only thing that is said is that Aj keeps ducking that's it. No one is talking about the outcome.

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              #206
              Originally posted by Loque-san
              Fights don't get made on social media. If Ortiz is really their first choice, then all he has to do is pick up the phone when it rings and say "yes". You are seeing Wilder fans everywhere, even when no one mentions him.
              Yes it does..its a new age & you better catch up.

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              • trueblood
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                #207
                best fight ortiz

                he will get a boxing lesson from the old man...

                till the 7 8 round..he will also get a chin test..

                then ofcorse he will knock otter out..

                from ortiz being tired.. hope he gets this pay day

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                • LacedUp
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                  #208
                  Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                  When was the last time AJ fought a voluntary non champ that wasn't linked to Hearn?
                  I already quoted that. Why don’t you respond to that?

                  Your point makes no sense bro. AJ has fought mandatories and champions since Molina.

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                  • Sid-Knee
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                    #209
                    Originally posted by 5000boxing
                    Man, who are u? Do u even box? Every boxer knows Ortiz is no hypejob.. he's a very dangerous southpaw u fool.. ***, look at the mans amature record.. he's always been a solid fighter.. which is why he is avoided.. an go watch the Ortiz vs scott fight.. an tell me that fool didnt run.. ur nothing in this world but a ******ed hater, an supreme king of the morons. I'm going to pay a nerd to find u.. so us fighters can finally meet the infamous keyboard warrior.. and *** u up!
                    I train 5 times a week actually. Don't do any sparring though.

                    His amateur record? The one where he didn't achieve anything? Bit like his pro record too.

                    Ortiz isn't avoided by anyone. They're just bullshlt stories you clowns come out with to boost Wilder because that's the only win worth something on his resume. It's in your interests to do so. Make him out to be a boogeyman. Sorry, but it's just not true.

                    You call AJ and Whyte hype jobs but want to praise the guy who hasn't done anything? Yeah, that makes sense. With all the hype Ortiz gets, there is no other word to describe him other than hype job because he's done nothing other than beat a decent fighter in Jennings years back. He personifies it.

                    You smear AJ and Hearn at every turn with madness, but you want to call me the hater? Ironic, man.

                    Look, if you and I came face to face, you wouldn't do anything. If you tried, i'd **** you out. I expect you fight as good as you can rationalise situations anyway. Which is f3cking terrible. I'd probably only have to give you an open handed slap and you'd be done.

                    Continue to be insane, then i'm going to continue to get on your case. Simple. If you don't like it, change the way you think and come into reality. It's up to you.

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                    • Sid-Knee
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                      #210
                      Originally posted by j.razor
                      Aj & hearn are the ones that talk but don't walk. If he doesn't fight King Kong then that will show you but of course you'll blame King Kong like you do D.Wilder.
                      Of course Ortiz will be to blame asking for 10 Mill. He only got paid 500K for Wilder, but you think he's worth over the 6.5 Hearn is offering even though he lost that fight and hasn't boosted his reputation since?

                      Your bias is so extreme, man. You're not even a troll either. You really believe the madness you say. Which is very scary by the way. I feel sorry for you.

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