Everyone is juicing. If you think otherwise you're a moron.

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  • Smash
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    #41
    unless u are being tested 365 then there is always the chance u are juicing

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    • lopetego
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      #42
      Originally posted by Smash
      unless u are being tested 365 then there is always the chance u are juicing
      and then you have PED gurus like Memo Heredia who brag they can create undetectable PEDs

      "There are tablets for the kidneys that block the metabolites of steroids, so when athletes give a urine sample, they don't excrete the metabolites and thus test negative. Or there is an enzyme that slowly consumes proteins - epo has protein structures, and the enzyme thus ensures that the B sample of the doping test has a completely different value than the A sample. Then there are chemicals that you take a couple of hours before the race that prevent acidification in the muscles. Together with epo they are an absolute miracle. I've created 20 different drugs that are still undetectable for the doping testers."


      No wonder JMM was able to become Hulkquez at 40yo and almost kill Pacquiao
      Last edited by lopetego; 04-19-2019, 02:31 PM.

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      • sicko
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        #43
        "Juicing" I don't know about that, fans still thinking guys are in the Locker Rooms injecting each other with Steroid Needles. I won't go that far BUT guys are on something especially to help with Recovery more than anything.

        Yes they all take some type of "Performance Enhancement Drugs", even if it is not on the banned list it is still a form of PED regardless if it is Lidocaine (Mayweather used this before Allegedly as did Oscar De La Hoya which people ignore). Oscar also used "Testosterone Boosters and Creatine" along with 9 other supplements going into the Trinidad Fight.

        Oscar De La Hoya has incorporated a testosterone booster and creatine among nine different supplements into his training regimen in preparation for tomorrow night's welterweight unification title bout against Felix Trinidad.
        Source:https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs...196-story.html

        To be fair these things wasn't "BANNED" at the time and Lidocaine is still not banned in Nevada BUT if it can help your performance and help allow you to performance with Brittle Hands, that is still a form of "Performance Enhancement"

        So even the Legends took some stuff to help them during Camp so yeah NOBODY is 100% Natural!

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        • BeatnickBenny
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          #44
          Did Sugar Ray/Dempsey/Marciano all juice too?

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          • ShoulderRoll
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            #45
            All we can do is insist that they take the stringest testing available to modern science.

            Just sitting back and accepting or condoning cheating is not an option.

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