The greatest of each weight division?

**Southpaw Stinger** · 07-15-2006, 10:34 AM

Heavy - Wlad
Cruiser - Bell
Light - Hopkins (until new)
Super Middle - Calzaghe
Middle - Taylor
Light Middle - Ouma
Welter - Mayweather
Light Welter - Hatton (until he moved up)
Lightweight - Corrales
Super Feather - Pac man

I don't know much about any of the lower divisions so I won't comment on them.

**TheEvilSaint** · 07-15-2006, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by Hatton Hitman

Who is the greatest, in your own opinion, of the heavyweight division, Cruiser weight, light-heavy weight...........bantam weight e.t.c?

now, or ever?

**Southpaw Stinger** · 07-15-2006, 10:46 AM

now, or ever?

I hope he means now, I don't think Wlad is the best ever heavy!

**Kball15** · 07-15-2006, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger

Heavy - Wlad
Cruiser - Bell
Light - Hopkins (until new)
Super Middle - Calzaghe
Middle - Taylor
Light Middle - Ouma
Welter - Mayweather
Light Welter - Hatton (until he moved up)
Lightweight - Corrales
Super Feather - Pac man

I don't know much about any of the lower divisions so I won't comment on them.

BEST EVER:

heavy- Joe Louis
Middleweight- hagler
welter- robinson

**BadMagick** · 07-15-2006, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by kfootball15

BEST EVER:

heavy- Joe Louis
Middleweight- was ray robinson middle? if so, then him.
welter- ray leonard

He was, but more of his career was fought at Welter. He's known as p4p the greatest fighter ever, and the best welterweight ever, but not the best middleweight ever. Normally the honors for best middleweight go to Marvin Hagler.

If you don't know if SRR was a middle, then you obviously know very little about him, so why the **** would you rate him as anything? What, you hear that he's supposedly great, yet you have no idea who he fought, who he beat, and who he lost to, but you rate him as the greatest ever in a specific division, even though he isn't as big for that division. That's just ****ing ******, seriously. "Well, I know nothing of this guy, but a lot of people say he was great, so, despite knowing nothing of him, I'm gonna say that whatever division he was in, he was the best ever in all of them!" The fact that you have SRL as the greatest welter ever is testament to what I have just said.

Heavy- Louis or Ali
Cruiser- Holyfield
LHW- Archie Moore, or Michael Spinks?
SMW- Unsure
MW- Hagler
JMW- Unsure
Welter- SRR
Jr. Welter- ?

I don't know enough about the lower divisions to make more of a listing.

**Azteca** · 07-15-2006, 11:23 AM

heavy- joe louis
cruiser- evander holyfield
light heavy- bob foster
super middlweight- roy jones
middlweight- carlos monzon
super welterweight- mike mcallum
welterweight- ray robinson
jr welterweight- aaron pryor
lightweight- joe gans
jr lightweight- oscar delahoya
featherweight- willie pep
jr featherweight- carlos ortiz

**LOLORSKATES** · 07-15-2006, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by BadMagick

He was, but more of his career was fought at Welter. He's known as p4p the greatest fighter ever, and the best welterweight ever, but not the best middleweight ever. Normally the honors for best middleweight go to Marvin Hagler.

If you don't know if SRR was a middle, then you obviously know very little about him, so why the **** would you rate him as anything? What, you hear that he's supposedly great, yet you have no idea who he fought, who he beat, and who he lost to, but you rate him as the greatest ever in a specific division, even though he isn't as big for that division. That's just ****ing ******, seriously. "Well, I know nothing of this guy, but a lot of people say he was great, so, despite knowing nothing of him, I'm gonna say that whatever division he was in, he was the best ever in all of them!"

Just to add in some input. I've never seen SRR fight nor have I even seen any pictures of him fighting someone..All I do know is he has an incredible record..

**BadMagick** · 07-15-2006, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by 4CornerMessiah

Just to add in some input. I've never seen SRR fight nor have I even seen any pictures of him fighting someone..All I do know is he has an incredible record..

I've only seen a few of his fights. Yeah, there's not really that big of a problem listing a guy as the greatest p4p ever when he's so highly regarded, or even the best Welter when it's almost unanimously agreed upon that he was the best welter ever. However, when your knowledge of a guy is so obviously low that you don't rate him as the best in the division he dominated the most, and the one he's most well known for, then give him a spot at a place you're not even sure if he fought in, you're probably best off just not mentioning his name.

**Kball15** · 07-15-2006, 12:57 PM

well people call him the p4p best to ever play the sport, so whatever division he dominated in, he must have been best ever in. I wasnt sure what division he fought at. knowing that he went up to light-heavy at one point, i thought he was most likley always a middle-weight. I guess wrong apparently.

But then i do agree that hagler owns the rights to that spot. I was gonna put him there, but then robinson popped into my mind. I wasnt alive when he fought, so i know almost nothing about him. I guess i offended u in some way, so sorry about that.

When i was little, i was only into heavyweights (which is reasonable, considering how great that division was at that time), so i know i dont know much about the other fighters from when i was little. All i know is what i have learned in the last few years

The greatest of each weight division?