Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Canelo-Jacobs, Mayweather-Crawford, More

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The Daily Bread Mailbag returns with Stephen "Breadman" Edwards tackling topics such as Canelo Alvarez vs. Daniel Jacobs, breaking down some of boxing's best trainers of all time, thoughts on Sugar Ray Leonard, Mayweather vs. Crawford, and more.
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Canelo vs Jacobs

Canelo vs Jacobs- why do I feel this fight has Dela Hoya vs Bernard Hopkins written all over it.

[Bjl12]

Canelo vs Jacobs- why do I feel this fight has Dela Hoya vs Bernard Hopkins written all over it.

DLH was more excited about being a crossover celebrity by that fight.

Canelo shows zero signs of that

And Danny isnt half the boxer BHOP was..and that's no diss to Danny.

[TonyGe]

I enjoyed the piece he wrote about the great trainer's from the past. They all got into their fighters psyche and had them believing in them. I remember seeing clips where fighters spoke about Manny. They all spoke about him with respect and fondness. Training the fighter is only one piece of the puzzle.

[HarvardBlue]

Man, he is having the hardest time giving Spence full props.

I don't need to see anything else from Spence. One thing I know he has is that will to win.

Going overseas and facing adversity against hometown favorite Brook he could've easily caved. He could've said, maybe I'm not ready but I took a chance. He kept coming and eventually got that man to take a knee.

It would've been one thing to eek out a win on the road when you're down. It's another thing to go overseas, get into a rocky situation, and have the perseverance to keep fighting and get that man take a knee in his home town. That's a special thing for a fighter to do.

[Terrell1555]

One of the things I hate that fans, trainers and the media do when saying Oscar, Mosley, Cotto, and Pac were past there primes is. They never say Oscar was the lineal SWW Champion, who got all the advantages in the negotiations, and Floyd was fighting for the first time at SWW. His win against Oscar was a solid career defining win, and a change of the guard torch passing fight! Mosley, Cotto, and Pac I agree we’re past their primes slightly, but all were coming off big wins! And the most telling fact that no one likes to mention when this comes up is...FLOYD WAS PAST HIS PRIME IN ALL THREE OF THOSE FIGHTS TOO! Floyd tried to make fights with all three much earlier and Oscar, than when those fights were made. But because Floyd was also past his prime in those three fights people have to stop talking like a prime Mayweather went and beat pass prime greats, it’s just not true! And Pac is actually two years younger! Floyd was just simply the better fighter than all three!

[Infa]

Mosley Oscar were way past their primes more so than Floyd was on top of that they were both 4-5 yrs older battle beaten. 2015 Pac was not 2009 Pac Stop defending Floyd like he's Ray Robinson

[Drew Bundini Br]

FLOYD beat the so called over the hill DELA HATER and MOSELY but PAC fought them right after FLOYD so they had to be zombies by that time. Lol. FLOYD is older than both COTTO and PAC so now they say he fought them when they were old. Lol. FLOYD fought CANELO who could of been his son he was so much younger. Fact!!

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FLOYD beat the so called over the hill DELA HATER and MOSELY but PAC fought them right after FLOYD so they had to be zombies by that time. Lol. FLOYD is older than both COTTO and PAC so now they say he fought them when they were old. Lol. FLOYD fought CANELO who could of been his son he was so much younger. Fact!!

age isn't always the best indicator of a fighters prime. A lot of it has to do with the amount of punishment someone has taken in the ring. Floyd to his credit was able to maintain his peak longer than most. I don't think he beat the absolute best versions of mosley, Oscar and Cotto but they were all still solid wins. I also think he faced better versions of those 3 guys than the versions pac faced. Oscar was weight drained and older when he faced pac, mosley was also on a serious nose dive when Pac fought him, and with Cotto, although pac fought him first, cotto was forced to fight at a 145 catch weight vs pac, he was only 2 fights removed from being hit with plaster wraps, and lastly, he basically trained himself for that fight. The version of Cotto that Floyd fought would've given pac hell. Especially with random drug testing in place.

[twosweethooks]

So who are actually the best fighters Floyd beat going by exactly when he fought them. I would say top 5 are Jose Luis Castillo 02, Diego Corrales 01, Oscar De La Hoya 07, Canelo 13 and Pacquiao 15. Maidana is 2014, Judah 06 and Marquez 09 all have cases:

Bread is da man !!

My humble take:
Castillo BEAT Mayweather by 2-3 rounds. Robbery’s are gonna happen ( GGG vs CLENLO) especially when a fighter has the tools to make money for Nevada etc.....so if you watch boxing you will see more robberies!! By the way the next possible robbery is Canelo vs Jacobs. The only way a robbery doesn’t happen is a legit KO. Canelo is the money man and no body beats him but by KO.

All we ever heard was Corrales was a mental case and the poor man proved it. The piece of shlt Jr knew it and took advantage over it.

ODH was way out of Prime and would have beat the socks off of this gifted bum

Canelo vs Jr was a disappointment and the look on Jr’s face after he knew Canelo wasn’t coming in to kill him was relief.

Pac had a torn rotator cuff

Maidana was in prime and FINALLY the peckerwood fought a prime fighter. Maidana was a great fighter to watch because of his power chin and GAMENESS . He just kept coming and had Jr crying like a child when he got his toy taken away!!

Mayweathers time was filled with average fighters all the special fighters were damaged mentally or physically where he took advantage of that.

Jr bowed out when Spence and Crawford came along. I think both would have Jr crying and shltting his pink panties