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  • #61
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
    lol @ Dillian Shyte being ranked above Wilder.


    Dillian Shyte, I'm ded.

    Greens coming your way.

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    • #62
      The HW div must be in a sad state if Usyk is a player.......

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      • #63
        1) Fury
        2) Joshua
        3) Wilder
        4) Whyte/Ortiz/Pulev etc

        No idea how people can rank Usyk when he's never even had a fight at HW.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
          yes, based on the WBO rules he can fight for the title immediately. That doesn't make him one of the 5 best HWT's in the world.

          As we have discussed, I think Usyk beats all the Hwt's if he can handle their power. My point is to rank him top 5 before he has actually fought at HWT is absurd.
          "I'm saying Oleksandr Usyk, and I know he hasn't boxed yet at heavyweight yet, but he's the undisputed cruiserweight champion and he is a genius and I presume that he's going to be in that mix"

          Clearly states he's just presuming, don't see the problem with having a guess with solid reasoning and promoting his guy at the same time since he is a promoter.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Curtis Harper View Post
            The HW div must be in a sad state if Usyk is a player.......
            Why? He's a big undisputed cruiser weight.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Jax teller View Post
              Why? He's a big undisputed cruiser weight.
              Exactly.....

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Curtis Harper View Post
                Exactly.....
                Whats that supposed mean? Was HW division in a sorry state when Holyfield moved up to be a 'player'?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Jax teller View Post
                  Whats that supposed mean? Was HW division in a sorry state when Holyfield moved up to be a 'player'?
                  Was he a player, though ?!?!?

                  Look at his HW path.....I guess RJJ was a player too

                  Maybe, in this HW climate, Usyk is a player. He would not be during. Holy's climb up. In fact, I'd pick Holy to beat Usyk.

                  Imho

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Jkp View Post
                    Lol. Anyone with Lucas Browne as a career highlight is a bum.

                    Especially the fat old off peds version of Lucas Browne.

                    Get a clue.
                    I agree that's not a marquis name, but how many former champions has Ortiz beaten?
                    Zero, that's how many. And he struggled with that big German lad. He only gets mentioned by Wilderettes in an effort to make Wilder look better. Fact is, Wilder still hasn't beaten anyone of note. It's right there in front of your eyes. He has a W against the old Cuban, and a L to Fury. Hes garbage.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Curtis Harper View Post
                      Was he a player, though ?!?!?

                      Look at his HW path.....I guess RJJ was a player too

                      Maybe, in this HW climate, Usyk is a player. He would not be during. Holy's climb up. In fact, I'd pick Holy to beat Usyk.

                      Imho
                      I don't get your gripe with Usyk being effective, he's 6,3 walks around at 220 lbs or there abouts, super athletic and super skilled. Is that not within the requirements of being within HW?

                      Is his size your issue because smaller HW's have been effective like Tyson and Marciano. Luis Ortiz is only 6'3 and was a CW at one point he's supposed to be a big deal, Povetkin was an top fighter and he's 6'2.

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