Who do you class as an A-class fighter today?

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  • thecomedian2
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    #11
    Originally posted by Jax teller
    LMAO Muhammed Ali is a B grade fighter and Sugar Ray Robinson must be D- by your standards with 19 losses.
    The question was about todays boxers, Muhamed Ali and Ray Robinson are ATG, GOAT level.

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    • Blue54
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      #12
      Originally posted by W1LL
      You can differentiate with A*, A+, A, A- etc if you really want to. I just labelled Vasyl Lomachenko an A* fighter in another thread. It's easier to just generalize the A-class category though, you don't have to go into the finer details of a grade within a grade.

      Tyson Fury
      Oleksandr Usyk
      Saul Alvarez
      Vasyl Lomachenko

      Just a few. Are the likes of Callum Smith, Errol Spence Jr. and Terence Crawford proven A-class? Manny Pacqiauo was A-class, but is he still? Same goes for Sergey Kovalev and Gennady Golovkin?
      Callum Smith B+
      Spence A
      Crawford A
      Pacquiao was A+ but now B lvl out of his prime
      Kovalev A-
      Ggg A

      Fury A
      Usyk A+
      Alvarez A-
      Lomenchenko A+

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      • chaosking
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        #13
        Originally posted by thecomedian2
        The question was about todays boxers, Muhamed Ali and Ray Robinson are ATG, GOAT level.
        Name checks out. You're an idiot.

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        • Jax teller
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          #14
          Originally posted by thecomedian2
          The question was about todays boxers, Muhamed Ali and Ray Robinson are ATG, GOAT level.
          They've still got losses, undefeated ain't all that anyone can have a bad day and anyone can improve after a loss.

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          • Squ□redCircle34
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            #15
            A+
            Crawford
            Usyk
            Canelo
            Loma
            Spence
            Fury

            A
            Thurman
            SSR
            Estrada


            A-
            Current Kovalev
            Current ggg
            Andrade
            Hurd

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            • drablj
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              #16
              add kosei tanaka and naoya inoue.

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              • Holler
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                #17
                Originally posted by thecomedian2
                Only Unbeaten fighters qualify as A/A+
                A good example of the way that an unbeaten status has become a fetish with some fans to the detriment of the sport. This has led to boxers becoming increasingly risk averse, desperate not to lose their '0' and content to exist in a state of perpetual paralysis.

                In reality all the ATG's lost occasionally, such is boxing and those losses didn't diminish their accomplishments but made them all the more impressive because they took place in an era where fighters would take a risk.

                Today we have a generation of fans brought up on Floyd's careful massaging of his unbeaten record and they've somehow convinced themselves that the path to greatness involves managing all risk out of the game.

                Tragic...

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                • thecomedian2
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Holler
                  In reality all the ATG's lost occasionally
                  Floyd never lost you piece of ****! Canelo lost to him which is really not that bad because Floyd has made a career of beating future HOF boxers.

                  ATG/GOAT Floyd>>> A+ Canelo> A GGG

                  But losing to SALIDO will for ever more taint Lomachenko´s career.

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