Can someone please explain to me why Lomachenko NEEDS Teofimo Lopez

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  • BoxingIsGreat
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    #31
    The only conclusion one can reach from all these excuses, justifications, and fear of his fans, is that Loma and team will wait out Lopez, if they can, until he moves up to 140.

    Enjoy your Crollas for the next couple of years.

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    • KTFOKING
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      #32
      Originally posted by Flo_Raiden
      I literally said that I would be fine with a fight between Loma and Lopez TWICE... But sure, I’ll bite. IF Lopez gets by with a notable opponent but with no belt, should he fight Loma still? If there is no other available opponents for Loma to face then sure I guess a fight would be ok, but it would not have that much impact. Loma should focus more on fighters that matters more.

      We should stop pretending as if Lopez has actually done something worthwhile. Until he gets a win over a noteworthy guy, which I’m sure he can, then we can talk about a potential match up.
      I won't pretend he has because I've never made that claim.

      Lomachenko is likely getting Commey next sometime in July or August, and that's a perfectly reasonable unification bout. I don't know if Lopez will be able to fight for the WBC belt if Mikey vacates, but that would be great if he can.

      But that is still a bit unlikely so I think best bet is him getting Perdraza. It won't be for a title but at least Lopez and Lomachenko will have a common opponent.

      Anyways, we have pretty much said all we can about this situation. To me, if Lopez makes a statement or beats a top level LW, then make the fight happen. He sure doesn't have the resume' worthy for a Lomachenko fight and I'd never argue otherwise. But to me he has the physical advantages and a very good style to fare well in this potential match up. I think it would be a damn good fight where the fans will leave satisfied.

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      • Flo_Raiden
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        #33
        Originally posted by KTFOKING
        I won't pretend he has because I've never made that claim.

        Lomachenko is likely getting Commey next sometime in July or August, and that's a perfectly reasonable unification bout. I don't know if Lopez will be able to fight for the WBC belt if Mikey vacates, but that would be great if he can.

        But that is still a bit unlikely so I think best bet is him getting Perdraza. It won't be for a title but at least Lopez and Lomachenko will have a common opponent.

        Anyways, we have pretty much said all we can about this situation. To me, if Lopez makes a statement or beats a top level LW, then make the fight happen. He sure doesn't have the resume' worthy for a Lomachenko fight and I'd never argue otherwise. But to me he has the physical advantages and a very good style to fare well in this potential match up. I think it would be a damn good fight where the fans will leave satisfied.
        Believe me, I would be all for a match up between Loma and Lopez when the time is right. The main reason why I am against Lopez jumping into a Loma match right away without any notable wins is because I see a lot of potential and unique qualities and the last thing I would want to see is a talent like him disappearing to obscurity after fighting Loma, just ask Rigo, Walters, and GRJ. Lopez is one of my favorite prospects, I just think that he has a lot more time to build himself up and become a big name.

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        • KTFOKING
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          #34
          Originally posted by Flo_Raiden
          Believe me, I would be all for a match up between Loma and Lopez when the time is right. The main reason why I am against Lopez jumping into a Loma match right away without any notable wins is because I see a lot of potential and unique qualities and the last thing I would want to see is a talent like him disappearing to obscurity after fighting Loma, just ask Rigo, Walters, and GRJ. Lopez is one of my favorite prospects, I just think that he has a lot more time to build himself up and become a big name.
          GRJ has been fine after the loss. Him fighting once a year has to do with himself and only himself. He could be getting two fights per year if he wanted them. The loss didn't really affect him, he's the same fighter.

          Lopez wouldn't be disappearing either after a loss. He's certainly not getting beat up or hurt that fight so he will be fine.

          The thing is, if you don't make the fight by end of the year or at the very least early next year, you lose it for good.

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          • john l
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            #35
            Originally posted by Flo_Raiden
            Lately I’ve been seeing people clamoring for Loma to take the fight with Lopez, that he NEEDS to fight him. Can someone please tell me why fighting a 21 year old prospect with no notable wins nor a belt is such a top priority all of a sudden? Other than Lopez looking pretty good against no hopers and having potential why does Loma need this guy right away when he has nothing to offer? I’d rather have Tank, Mikey, Farmer, Berchelt, or Commey. Is there something that I’m missing? Its the same thing that’s happened to Walters where people wanted Loma to fight him. The fight was made, Loma makes easy work of Walters, and then all of a sudden Walters is considered a bum. Do you guys really want the same thing to happen to Lopez?
            He don't need to fight prospect his promoter does not even think he is ready.Dont listen to idiots you seem to have a good understanding so just blow them off.The kids a good fighter and if he turns out to be a great fighter he will be a MUCH bigger draw(latin community) then Loma so if Arum and his matchmakers thought he was ready he would get fight pretty simple you would think.Alot of these guys fall in love with next puncher who scores a couple highlight KOs.

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            • R-Hand Southpaw
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              #36
              Originally posted by KTFOKING
              Once again, why are you so worried about this or why should Lomachenko worry about getting credit for the win? Please tell me the type of credit he is going to get in beating Crolla. I keep repeating these fights because you damn well know Lomachenko isn't getting too much credit for these wins.

              It shouldn't bother Lomachenko at all if people say after the fight, "Well, Teofimo was too green" or "He wasn't ready yet." Lomachenko will still get to shut up a family who has been trashing him for damn near a year now and he will get a very good payday in doing so.
              Lomachenko gets no credit for beating Crolla either. Why would you think he wants credit for that? Or even his fans? The only reason he took the fight is because if he didnt he would have been stripped of his WBA belt.

              His goal has always been titles. Hes at 135 and topped out, his goal is to unify the division. Being stripped of the WBA belt doesnt help him towards his goal and its not like he can fight for another one right now either. Mikey has the WBC and Commey has the IBF. Mikey is hiding and Commey is injured. Who else could he have even fought?

              Lomachenko is just fighting his mandatory so he doesn't get stripped. No one wants to see this fight.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Socialtwinkie
                Lomachenko gets no credit for beating Crolla either. Why would you think he wants credit for that? Or even his fans? The only reason he took the fight is because if he didnt he would have been stripped of his WBA belt.

                His goal has always been titles. Hes at 135 and topped out, his goal is to unify the division. Being stripped of the WBA belt doesnt help him towards his goal and its not like he can fight for another one right now either. Mikey has the WBC and Commey has the IBF. Mikey is hiding and Commey is injured. Who else could he have even fought?

                Lomachenko is just fighting his mandatory so he doesn't get stripped. No one wants to see this fight.
                Since no one wants to see it, as you say, why should he be pissing off the real boxing fans and insulting their intelligence? Because some BS belt org told him so?

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                • Real King Kong
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                  #38
                  If Lopez wants to fight him, then why not. There’s only a few fights out there that are really interesting for loma...Garcia, berchelt, davis. Arum would be dumb to put Lopez in with loma before he’s even faced one decent fighter tho.

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                    #39
                    Based on what's available out there and can realistically be made, only a complete, utter boxing idiot thinks that Lopez isn't a challenge.

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                    • satiev1
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                      The only conclusion one can reach from all these excuses, justifications, and fear of his fans, is that Loma and team will wait out Lopez, if they can, until he moves up to 140.

                      Enjoy your Crollas for the next couple of years.
                      Lopez needs to stop fighting unranked bums and fight someone with a pulse so he can become mandatory to lomachenko. How much longer are you going to defend him fighting cans?

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